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by bobbo
12-17-2011 11:32 AM
Forum: Earth/ Weather/ Climate
Topic: Climate Change Debate
Replies: 61
Views: 10505

Are we Men of Science, or Devo?

I hate disagreeable people myself. ju3h7yk4Hcg We are all the same that way. Hate being disagreed with--being told we are wrong. But to have it DEMONSTRATED? The Horror! Still==there is value in being disagreed with in ways we don't like. What can I take away from this regardless? But life is short....
by bobbo
12-16-2011 08:48 PM
Forum: Earth/ Weather/ Climate
Topic: Climate Change Debate
Replies: 61
Views: 10505

HB--I started smiling when I saw you had responded. You did not fail me. Good one. Upholding the moral standards of the forum are we? Monkey **** is monkey ****. Why not call it for what it is when you see it? Seems to me that people fall into a complacency where indeed they are treated politely whe...
by bobbo
12-16-2011 08:12 PM
Forum: Earth/ Weather/ Climate
Topic: Climate Change Debate
Replies: 61
Views: 10505

Are we Men of Science, or Devo?

..............and another one bites the dust..........!

My insults were not intentionally personal. Just the way I think.

Focus on the substance of the argument.

or not.
by bobbo
12-16-2011 07:15 PM
Forum: Earth/ Weather/ Climate
Topic: Climate Change Debate
Replies: 61
Views: 10505

Are we Men of Science, or Devo?

Lets put the stopwatch on (Milankovich Cycles IPCC). Start: 4:10......stop 4:11 "Great progress has been made in understanding the causes and mechanisms of these climate changes." // ie--a direct discussion of the Milankovich Cycles. Hmmmm......Bummer! Course this one IPCC reference doesn'...
by bobbo
12-16-2011 07:06 PM
Forum: Earth/ Weather/ Climate
Topic: Climate Change Debate
Replies: 61
Views: 10505

#44--Megman==I don't recall that exact cycle but a few years ago when I delved into the IPCC computer model abstracts I was as usual completely blown away by the complexity and breadth of expertise that was evident and referenced in the body and the footnotes of various charts, issues, and open item...
by bobbo
12-16-2011 06:16 PM
Forum: Earth/ Weather/ Climate
Topic: Climate Change Debate
Replies: 61
Views: 10505

Are we Men of Science, or Devo?

#42--Megman==the cows and the sheep are here because of man==just more AGW. I believe that termites, having nothing to do with man, are the largest source of methane gas in the atmosphere, or maybe just biogenic methane? Don't remember the exact "most of" what termites are. Anyway, you see...
by bobbo
12-16-2011 04:30 PM
Forum: Earth/ Weather/ Climate
Topic: Climate Change Debate
Replies: 61
Views: 10505

Are we Men of Science, or Devo?

#40--Megman: Let's Parse: So, he asked a question you didn't like and summarily dismissed everything else........./// Yep. My time is valuable. As stated: its just an argument--not science. I've read too many such arguments in the past. They don't hold up. IF you think a particular analogy or fact p...
by bobbo
12-16-2011 02:06 PM
Forum: Earth/ Weather/ Climate
Topic: Climate Change Debate
Replies: 61
Views: 10505

Are we Men of Science, or Devo?

I need to spend much more time on Janus's thread regarding all these issues. I'm sure they have all been well hashed already and more expertly than my non-science based musings. That said, I've always enjoyed guessing at what the first catastrophic event will be that makes everyone smack themselves ...
by bobbo
12-16-2011 01:56 PM
Forum: Earth/ Weather/ Climate
Topic: Climate Change Debate
Replies: 61
Views: 10505

Are we Men of Science, or Devo?

#33--Megman==went to the link. I stopped reading at this sentence: "Is our sun the central brain of the solar system which is orchestrating and driving this change?" //// Puerile. As stated: an argument is NOT science, its just an argument. Not even engaged in if dismissed as not science. ...
by bobbo
12-16-2011 01:43 PM
Forum: Earth/ Weather/ Climate
Topic: Climate Change Debate
Replies: 61
Views: 10505

Are we Men of Science, or Devo?

I've often thought the release of methane is the type of event that could change our climate "overnight"/within a month just like in a disaster movie. Now--I don't exactly have a good feel on what releasing 8 Milliion Tons of Methane per year will do==but no reason not to think who knows w...
by bobbo
12-16-2011 01:21 PM
Forum: Earth/ Weather/ Climate
Topic: Climate Change Debate
Replies: 61
Views: 10505

words have meaning

sci·ence noun /ˈsīəns/  sciences, plural 1. The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment Note the definition does not include 1. arguing by analogy 2. what people do with t...
by bobbo
12-16-2011 01:16 PM
Forum: Earth/ Weather/ Climate
Topic: Climate Change Debate
Replies: 61
Views: 10505

Are we Men of Science, or Devo?

Megman--I assume you moved the post? Thank you. I didn't realize it went for three pages already. Yes--thank you for your personal interest and care. I will go to your link but arguing what is happening on other planets "is not science." Its just an argument. An analogy. A correlation on a...
by bobbo
12-16-2011 11:42 AM
Forum: Politics and Government 2010-2013
Topic: Calling All Republicans - - - Why?
Replies: 311
Views: 20335

CK and Dio==both stumbling blind with only made up issues to disagree with. Dio--its math. $6.50 vs 44 cents.. Do the math. See the difference? 750 Billion TIMES a year, Americans choose the USPS over Fed Ex. But you aren't "sure" about the rationale? Even while you use USPS yourself whene...
by bobbo
12-16-2011 11:29 AM
Forum: Earth/ Weather/ Climate
Topic: Climate Change Debate
Replies: 61
Views: 10505

Yes--totally off topic and we are all contributing to it. A few days ago I looked for the Climate Change thread and found all the really excellent work done by Janus==but that thread is closed. What to do? I really didn't want to start a thread on climate change for reasons already expressed above (...
by bobbo
12-15-2011 07:49 PM
Forum: Politics and Government 2010-2013
Topic: Calling All Republicans - - - Why?
Replies: 311
Views: 20335

Dio--I could hardly correct YOU if I didn't know what you meant. Just as you showed you did not know what I meant which is why I corrected you.

See how that works?

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