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Post by SquidInk » 10-25-2009 04:16 PM

The short answer? No.

Beyond the signers' generation there was never a COTuS. (IMHO)
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Post by joequinn » 10-25-2009 04:19 PM

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." --- George Orwell
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Post by HB3 » 10-25-2009 04:32 PM

Now there's a quote for the ages. You know what the problem is, though? Everyone thinks it applies to them....

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Post by Linnea » 10-25-2009 04:42 PM

Perhaps Joolz is referring to the substance of the topic post. It seems so to me. It would be helpful in assessing some of this to have good references to the research material, for instance.

*However - if the the whole has a certain 'ring of truth' or inherent logic - it can be very compelling in itself and actually demand more 'truth search' than dismissal.

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Post by Linnea » 10-25-2009 04:45 PM

Originally posted by HB3
Now there's a quote for the ages. You know what the problem is, though? Everyone thinks it applies to them....


And, really - maybe it does. There may be more to parallel universes than we are aware of...

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Post by Linnea » 10-25-2009 04:48 PM

Originally posted by SquidInk
The short answer? No.

Beyond the signers' generation there was never a COTuS. (IMHO)


Those of the signer's generation also had their flaws, and yet - the true genius and beauty of the Constitution - is its focus on 'the people' and its ability to provide for course correction. This has not changed - in principle.

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Post by Linnea » 10-25-2009 04:58 PM

Or wait! What am I saying? 'The People'? What are 'the people'? Where are 'the people'?

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Post by joequinn » 10-25-2009 05:07 PM

I have reported, as honestly as I can (there's the way out of your dilemma, HB3), what I have read and been told. Now corroborate or debunk the information. It's as simple as that...

But the facts are irrelevant in this essentially political struggle, aren't they? Aren't they? Which is precisely why, in an age of UNIVERSAL deceit, telling the truth --- as one understands it, in the light of understanding it better --- is a revolutionary act.
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Post by SquidInk » 10-25-2009 05:15 PM

Linnea wrote: Or wait! What am I saying? 'The People'? What are 'the people'? Where are 'the people'?


You're doing a buccaneers' bolero along the edges of Oblivion, Linnea... many things there have been forgotten by "the people".
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Post by joequinn » 10-25-2009 05:17 PM

"There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" --- Marie Antoinette's seamstress, watching the Queen playing shepherdess at her toy palace at La Petit Trianon while the starving people of Paris were trying to break down the gates to get bread.
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Post by SquidInk » 10-25-2009 05:23 PM

joequinn wrote: "There is nothing new except what has been forgotten"...


In this case - contract law.
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Post by Linnea » 10-25-2009 05:27 PM

Joe - I just now have in my hands 'Towers of Decepetion' by Barrie Zwicker. I urge you to get this book! If you have not already read it. I got this copy via amazon - in 6 days - for the pittance of 13.49 which included postage. (click on the 'used book' link on amazon - for a list of private booksellers).

It was billed as a book about the media cover up of 9-11, but it is going to be much, much more than that. And, as for references, bibliography, etc. - this is a 386 pg book with 40 pages of notes, reference and index.

This book will also address issues of how 'truth is hidden, in plain sight' including studies of how our brains process information - and how to avoid the tricks of misdirection. ( just a brief section - not a new theory of mind or anything of that scope). Other focuses are this:

While Sleeping Watchdogs Lie, Other Watchdogs are Lied To

The Shame of Noam Chomsky and the Gatekeepers of the Left

Invisible Government: Manipulators of Events and the Media Gatekeepers

Gunpowder, Treason and Plot: From 1605 Through 9/11 to Today

Dr David Ray Griffin: Modern Day Prophet

and last

You and the Media: Ways Forward

Anyway, google it up and see if this is a book you would need. I felt I need this book - to get more information on 9-11 and the media. There is also a DVD with the book: 'The 9-11 News Special you never saw'

Haha! I also found one of those small, barcoded chip strips embedded within the pages of the book. I pried this out, naturally - and, need to find some way to get it far, far away from my house...

Seriously - this looks to be a fantastic resource in the search for truth re 9-11, and what the 'media' is about...

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Post by joequinn » 10-25-2009 05:28 PM

We have ten years... maybe, fifteen... No more than that. I think that I am going to have a glass of Pinot Noir and to lapse into a musical catatonia...

"Humankind cannot stand too much reality" --- T. S. Eliot, "Burnt Norton," FOUR QUARTETS. SIGH...
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Post by Linnea » 10-25-2009 05:37 PM

Well, a really unpleasant consideration - is that 'democracy' may not actually be viable - of course. If the 'people' taken enmass - is an entity without sufficient capability or interest to do the work required...to maintain it. At least - not yet - and as you say, there is little time.

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Post by Live365 » 10-25-2009 05:41 PM

joequinn wrote:
"Humankind cannot stand too much reality" .


Or maybe some people aren't the Pied Pipers they wish they were.

I'm sure T.S. Eliot could relate.
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