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Post by kbot » 05-09-2013 11:19 AM

So, Senator Lieberman issues a statement whcih we all pretty much know by now is true, that the intelligence agency and the massive total surveillance system created post 9/11 did absolutely nothing to prevent the Boston Marathon bombing frmo occuring.

So, what is it we are paying for? With all the money going to support integrated systems, fusion centers, enhanced ability to open e-mails and listen-in on phone calls, what are we getting for all this?????

Lieberman: Boston bombings could have been "prevented"

Stopping the Boston bombings wouldn't have been "easy," but former Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., argued that it was, in fact, "possible to have prevented the terrorist attacks" that killed four people and injured more than 260 last month at the Boston marathon.


Lieberman, speaking Thursday at a House Homeland Security Committee hearing examining the situation surrounding the bombings, acknowledged that "nobody bats 1000 percent" when it comes to preventing terrorist attacks. But he contended that federal intelligence about the suspected perpetrators should have been shared with state and local law enforcement agencies - and that the intelligence community's failure to do so "may be one of the most significant and painful takeaway lessons" from the incident.

"I believe that though it would not have been easy, it was possible to have prevented the terrorist attacks in Boston," said Lieberman, the former chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, who also co-authored the bill creating the Department of Homeland Security. "In a literal sense, the homeland security system, we must acknowledge, that we built after 9 /11 to protect the American people from terrorist attacks, failed to stop the Tsarnaev brothers."


On April 15, two bombs exploded at the Boston Marathon, killing three civilians and injuring hundreds. Two brothers, Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, are believed to have carried out those attacks; they are also suspected of having killed a police officer in an attempted escape. After a shoot-out and subsequent manhunt, the older brother, Tamerlan, is dead, and the younger, Dzhokhar, is in police custody.


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Mass. Homeland Security official: We were not aware of Tsarnaev brothers.In the aftermath of the bombings, it became clear that Russian intelligence agencies had requested the United States look into Tamerlan Tsarnaev for possible terrorist ties; the FBI and CIA both investigated his case, and the CIA ultimately requested that he be put on a terrorist watch list.

It appears, however, that state and local law enforcement and intelligence sharing agencies in Massachusetts were not made aware of this intelligence about the brothers; Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis testified Thursday that the Boston police was not aware of the investigation into Tamerlan Tsarnaev, nor were they aware of any of the various details that were later flagged as suspicious.

"We were not aware of the two brothers," he said. "We were not aware of Tamerlan's activities."

Kurt Schwartz, Massachusetts' undersecretary for homeland security, said neither the state police nor the Homeland Security Fusion centers - which aim to serve as interagency resource sharing points - knew anything about the brothers.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-575 ... prevented/

So, untold billions spent to create the biggest domestic spy operation ever, and we can't shaer information? Wow......

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Post by Cherry Kelly » 05-09-2013 12:24 PM

They are too busy -- hmm doing something else? Maybe playing games on their computers? Dunno -- but they certainly have failed.

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Post by kbot » 05-09-2013 02:07 PM

May be right CK......

I'm just astounded (in a way). I mean, we have Fusion Centers all over the place, and the surveillance has only increased over the past decade, so what gives?

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Post by Diogenes » 05-09-2013 04:33 PM

kbot wrote: May be right CK......

I'm just astounded (in a way). I mean, we have Fusion Centers all over the place, and the surveillance has only increased over the past decade, so what gives?


Kbot,

Maybe the procedures in place are not ineffective but rather the administration of the procedures is belied with incompetency and complacency.

Then again maybe the procedures needed tweaking with new and different technology - maybe it's like any disease - it becomes immune to certain antibiotics and tactics and it mutates so we need something different.

Al Quaeda of today is not the Al Quaeda of even 5 years ago. We were told the terrorists were on the run and it's true they are - right in our own backyard.

At the very least these two were dangerous - dangerous and suspicious enough for the Russians to inform us and somehow they slipped thru. How would we ever know why unless we thoroughly investigaged to find out if and where the ball was dropped.

We can't hold any hearings without the narcissistic politicians taking up valuable time which should be used with asking pertinent questions - :(
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