My prediction Came True

Raggedyann · Post by **Raggedyann** » 03-29-2014 11:58 PM

Diogenes wrote: RA,

Nothing which I posted is obscure. It is common knowledge and factual, with all varying links and posts on this forum.

When I hear folks grumble about wanting substance on certain issues -it’s sort of like discussing if WWII took place. Ok well then prove it - send a link. I mean really lets not be silly. Just because you don’t agree doesn’t mean the comments are inaccurate.

You have mentioned the Welfare Queen comment in conjunction with Reagan and the Republicans before so here is a link for you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_queen

By the way I think the Dems do an excellent job of being Liberals and Socialists - no masquerading there.

As for the Republicans - like the Dems many or most are in it for themselves and then there is that yellow streak down their backs.

Don’t paint me with that team brush because there is nothing I have written which would give that impression. What I believe is what I believe and not because of any team affiliation.

Oh sorry Dio. It's just that everything you say seems to be just an echo of Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, or old Reagan crapola. And if they aren't die hard Republicans, I don't know who is.

Anyhow be loyal if you want. Not for me to judge really. I just think you are wasting your very sharp brain on a useless, no win venture.

Cherry Kelly · Post by **Cherry Kelly** » 03-30-2014 10:53 AM

Dio -- I agree with what you wrote.

How sad that so many sdem to have forgotten (about Iraq) - the town destroyed by Sarin gas, the UN 1441, the thousands found in mass graves - men, women, children or the sight of one body of a woman holding a tiny baby shot dead and dumped in a mass grave, the many other atrocities on the people of that country - let alone the fact that there are numerous lists of dems (all in power) prior to the GW Bush administration -who all said we should do something about Iraq - and yes even going there.

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Ye there are die hard GOP, but there are die hard DEM as well. And as I noted seems a lot of DEM criminals are now being brought to justice after FBI investigations.

I have voted for Dems, independents and even some other third parties. Had what I considered a decent Dem rep - until his last years -- after NATO was passed. What a mess.

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Obama never held a job - community service - what a joke - there for the original meeting - then took off to Africa to investigate his roots - returned but the community thing was already done and over.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » 03-30-2014 01:10 PM

Cherry Kelly wrote: Dio -- I agree with what you wrote.

How sad that so many sdem to have forgotten (about Iraq) - the town destroyed by Sarin gas, the UN 1441, the thousands found in mass graves - men, women, children or the sight of one body of a woman holding a tiny baby shot dead and dumped in a mass grave, the many other atrocities on the people of that country - let alone the fact that there are numerous lists of dems (all in power) prior to the GW Bush administration -who all said we should do something about Iraq - and yes even going there.

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Ye there are die hard GOP, but there are die hard DEM as well. And as I noted seems a lot of DEM criminals are now being brought to justice after FBI investigations.

I have voted for Dems, independents and even some other third parties. Had what I considered a decent Dem rep - until his last years -- after NATO was passed. What a mess.

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Obama never held a job - community service - what a joke - there for the original meeting - then took off to Africa to investigate his roots - returned but the community thing was already done and over.

CK,

I call it the white wine and denial syndrome. Yes they have conveniently forgotten. Wrong thread but look now at the Dems who voted for Obamacare, now up for re-election and suddenly coming up with bills to amend the mess and make it messier. Same thing - you can insert Iraq for Obamacare and vice versa - different topic but same old game.

He has never run anything and if you watch and listen to him speak without his teleprompter he is slow, halting and comes across as completely lacking energy. Now put him in front of any crowd he wants to gin up about how unfairly they are being treated and then you see the hell fire and brimstone part of his being shine.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » 03-30-2014 01:17 PM

Raggedyann wrote: Oh sorry Dio. It's just that everything you say seems to be just an echo of Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, or old Reagan crapola. And if they aren't die hard Republicans, I don't know who is.

Anyhow be loyal if you want. Not for me to judge really. I just think you are wasting your very sharp brain on a useless, no win venture.

RA,

I can’t apologize for being a traditionalist and if being a traditionalist aligns on some opinions with those above then so be it, I have no problem with that.

Even thou I read and research all across the political board I continue to come back to my traditional blue collar roots and I make no apologies for that. I always go back to my parents and the way I was raised. Their work ethic and values have never let me down.

Frankly I would rather align myself with the folks above, and you can throw in Mark Levin and Bill O’Reilly as well, as opposed to a Bill Maher, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews and any of the other MSNBC notables.

Relative to Sean, Rush, and Mark, they are on record as aligning themselves with Conservatives and Sean for sure is a registered Conservative in NY.

Raggedyann · Post by **Raggedyann** » 03-30-2014 04:38 PM

Diogenes wrote: Frankly I would rather align myself with the folks above, and you can throw in Mark Levin and Bill O’Reilly as well, as opposed to a Bill Maher, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews and any of the other MSNBC notables.

LOL. You must be assuming that I watch MSNBC. I don't. I can't stand any of the talking bozos that blather on for hours on end. However I will admit that I did watch a bit of Rachel at the beginning of the Chris Christie Bridgegate scandal. Nice to see a guy (who calls his constituents idiots when they ask him a legitimate question) look like the biggest idiot of them all.

I do watch Jon Stewart and Bill Maher because they both have a way of presenting politics with cynical humor and I love a good laugh.

Riddick · Post by **Riddick** » 03-30-2014 07:27 PM

Raggedyann wrote: I do watch Jon Stewart and Bill Maher because they both have a way of presenting politics with cynical humor and I love a good laugh.

If it wasn't for cynical/sarcastic/satirical/ironic humor I doubt I'd have much at all to say about politics these days!

IMHO both parties deserve derisive scorn and deciding which is inherently worse is getting tougher all the time. As such for the most my targeting tendency when commenting on current federal goings-on is to zero-in on the party in power - meaning the Dems get the nod just now, yet setting my sights may get problematic after November 4th - if the GOP takes the Senate? You can better believe buck-passing between the Prez and Congress will only get worse.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » 03-30-2014 08:15 PM

Raggedyann wrote: LOL. You must be assuming that I watch MSNBC. I don't. I can't stand any of the talking bozos that blather on for hours on end. However I will admit that I did watch a bit of Rachel at the beginning of the Chris Christie Bridgegate scandal. Nice to see a guy (who calls his constituents idiots when they ask him a legitimate question) look like the biggest idiot of them all.

I do watch Jon Stewart and Bill Maher because they both have a way of presenting politics with cynical humor and I love a good laugh.

RA,

I have no idea (except Bill Maher because you have mentioned him and your enjoyment of him) on this forum, just who it is and which channel you follow. I was assuming nothing when indicated who it is I like and those I have no use for.

Did Chris Christie call folks idiots? I didn’t hear that but I’m not surprised at all and truthfully a lot of idiots vote and it can’t be helped - idiots are allowed to vote. I will say he was quite popular in the beginning for comments just like that because he came across as very frank and honestly there isn’t much of that these days.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » 03-30-2014 08:18 PM

Riddick wrote: If it wasn't for cynical/sarcastic/satirical/ironic humor I doubt I'd have much at all to say about politics these days!

IMHO both parties deserve derisive scorn and deciding which is inherently worse is getting tougher all the time. As such for the most my targeting tendency when commenting on current federal goings-on is to zero-in on the party in power - meaning the Dems get the nod just now, yet setting my sights may get problematic after November 4th - if the GOP takes the Senate? You can better believe buck-passing between the Prez and Congress will only get worse.

Precisely why so many choose to sit it out - buck passing and lack of any real courage because paramount is getting re-elected and now you get re-elected by pandering and spreading around whatever wealth is left.

Raggedyann · Post by **Raggedyann** » 03-30-2014 11:44 PM

Diogenes wrote: I will say he was quite popular in the beginning for comments just like that because he came across as very frank and honestly there isn’t much of that these days.

I kept hearing about his leadership abilities, all attributed to his "outspoken" persona. To me, calling people idiots and what have you, is rude and arrogant. Parents and teachers are trying to correct kids from name calling on facebook and on the school ground etc, and yet a State leader can act like a bully and people think that makes him a good leader and role model. Bizarre.

Diogenes · Post by **Diogenes** » 03-31-2014 09:44 AM

Raggedyann wrote: I kept hearing about his leadership abilities, all attributed to his "outspoken" persona. To me, calling people idiots and what have you, is rude and arrogant. Parents and teachers are trying to correct kids from name calling on facebook and on the school ground etc, and yet a State leader can act like a bully and people think that makes him a good leader and role model. Bizarre.

RA,

Role models - interesting thought. With morals and corruption the way they are, particularly in the world of politics I can't think of anyone current I would look to as a role model. But then I find ordinary people much more interesting on that front.

Good luck to parents and teachers today as they are competing with the Bill Maher's, crude Rap, televison, movies, and all the rest. Sometimes people deserve to be pushed back and reminded of their poor manners. Today that is considered bullying but where I come from it's just telling it like it is.

I am more concerned about the stupid bridge fiasco. Leaders create atmospheres and like the IRS scandal where I believe it is possible folks did as they wanted because there was an atmosphere of lets go aftter these folks, it is possible underlings took it either upon themselves or from someone direclty to create a bit of havoc. Frankly it sounds childish to me but yet they haven't come across a smoking gun yet. We both know from working so long that the unsaid but implied is just as impressionable as that which is said.

There is also his Greekness - Greek men have lots and lots of Testesterone. He is a very typical Greek male in my humble opinion.

Post by **Fan** » 03-31-2014 09:47 AM

Diogenes wrote: Ah yes George Bush and your hatred of him because of Iraq.

For those of us who work and support those who work the system, it does make sense.

um no, you said the world was run by liberals, just pointing out that 2 terms of republicans proves this theory untrue.

Raggedyann · Post by **Raggedyann** » 03-31-2014 03:27 PM

Diogenes wrote: Good luck to parents and teachers today as they are competing with the Bill Maher's, crude Rap, televison, movies, and all the rest.

There is also his Greekness - Greek men have lots and lots of Testesterone. He is a very typical Greek male in my humble opinion.

Good point about Bill Maher. He is indeed crude but parents have the ability to screen what their kids watch at home. But really, how many kids are watching Bill Maher? The Christie antics are viewable on TV at supper time without a parental warning.

Interesting that Greek testosterone is to be admired when so many other cultural differences in our society are deeply resented.

Doka · Post by **Doka** » 03-31-2014 03:37 PM

Hi Cherry Kelly!

And as I noted seems a lot of DEM criminals are now being brought to justice after FBI investigations.

I was just wondering where this is happening, I can't find anything on it. The FBI is the fox that runs the chicken coop and I don't see Holder bringing legitimate justice to the Dems? Just wondering?

Doka

voguy · Post by **voguy** » 03-31-2014 04:02 PM

I was going to say that both parties have a plethora of criminals who feed off us like deerflies in August. The problem is most people are still cheerleaders for their team. Wake the f--- up.

Raggedyann · Post by **Raggedyann** » 03-31-2014 05:33 PM

voguy wrote: I was going to say that both parties have a plethora of criminals who feed off us like deerflies in August. The problem is most people are still cheerleaders for their team. Wake the f--- up.

The really stupid part is that we will all go out and vote at election time because we still kind of cling to the notion that our vote may make a difference. Coupled with the fact that this is all the voice we have, and we don't want to ignore a constitutional right, even though we know full well it falls on the ears of liars, crooks and thieves.