State Surveillance Debate

[kbot]

In case you missed it, CSPSAN ran a segment from the MunkDebates program from Toronto earlier this morning, and the topic was the growth of the surveillance states.

Debating the issue, on the pro-side was Alan Dershowitz , and former NSA Director Michael Hayden . On the con side was Reddit founder Alexis Ohanian and investigative journalist and former lawyer Glenn Greenwald.

You can see some of the information regarding the debates here:

https://www.munkdebates.com/debates

MunkDebates also provided an interesting video from Edward Snowden that was played for the debate audience before the debate started, which can be viewed here:

https://www.munkdebates.com/snowden

Might take a while to load, depending on your browser, but you can access the same video from the main page, which will load quicker....

If you are not a member of MunkDebates, you can access the debate foe free from CSPAN's website here:

http://www.c-span.org/video/?319161-1/m ... rveillance

[Cherry Kelly]

I say surveillance has gotten beyond control - next thing you know they will bug all your homes.

They are working in many places to get rid of red light cameras. Reason is the cameras only see car/license plate - not who might be driving. Second reason - was they were changing the timing on the 'yellow' light so much you might start across on a green, the yellow would "flash on and off" and before you could complete the road crossing - RED would be on.

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good viewing, but not being a member - well some ehh.

[kbot]

I say surveillance has gotten beyond control - next thing you know they will bug all your homes.

They are working in many places to get rid of red light cameras. Reason is the cameras only see car/license plate - not who might be driving. Second reason - was they were changing the timing on the 'yellow' light so much you might start across on a green, the yellow would "flash on and off" and before you could complete the road crossing - RED would be on.

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good viewing, but not being a member - well some ehh.

You can view the entire debate (if you care to) for free on CSPAN

[Cherry Kelly]

ty kbot -- saw part of it already.... might be interesting to see the whole debate