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Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost

Post by kbot » 05-01-2017 04:02 PM

The Democrats "now know".........???? I thought is was obvious. :roll: Hillary didn't connect with many voters and she just gave-up on a number of states. Don't need a study for this. I wonder how much this group got paid for preparing a study validating what we al knew months ago........

Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost

WASHINGTON — A group of top Democratic Party strategists have used new data about last year's presidential election to reach a startling conclusion about why Hillary Clinton lost. Now they just need to persuade the rest of the party they're right.
Many Democrats have a shorthand explanation for Clinton's defeat: Her base didn't turn out, Donald Trump's did and the difference was too much to overcome.
But new information shows that Clinton had a much bigger problem with voters who had supported President Barack Obama in 2012 but backed Trump four years later.
Those Obama-Trump voters effectively accounted for more than two-thirds of the reason Clinton lost, according to Matt Canter, a senior vice president of the Democratic political firm Global Strategy Group. In his group's analysis, about 70 percent of Clinton's failure to reach Obama's vote total in 2012 was because she lost these voters.
Canter and other members of Global Strategy Group have delivered a detailed report of their findings to senators, congressmen, fellow operatives and think tank wonks — all part of an effort to educate party leaders about what the data say really happened in last year's election.

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Re: Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost

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Re: Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost

Post by Malaria_Kidd II » 05-02-2017 04:26 AM

Maybe many staunch Democrats actually switched over and voted on the Republican ticket! That idea would not have been taken into consideration on this belated study. Never believe the pollsters leading up to any election!

She's is and always will remain a Teflon Donna! :P

Here's a simple single fact that's not news :!: The sh!t slingin', potty mouthed ex first lady, US Senator & SOS loosing made the United States Secret Service very happy! :mrgreen:

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Re: Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost

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But there is still hope............

Hillary Clinton Is Running Again

Here’s the proof.

Hillary Clinton will run for president. Again.

No inside information informs this prediction. No argument is advanced as to whether her run is a good or a bad idea—there are many ways to make a case either way. Instead this is just a statement of simple facts (if facts mean anything anymore, that is). And the facts are clear that the former secretary of state is doing everything she needs to do to run for the White House one more time. If she finds a path to do so, she will take it. And I can prove it.

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Re: Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost

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Still not getting it. While saying that she takes personal responsibility, Hillary is still hanging on to the misogyny, "the Russians" and the FBI as the reasons why she lost.

How about the fact that she didn't connect with large swaths of voters, didn't get off her butt and campaign in some states and has a history of just pissing people off..........

Hillary Clinton adds misogyny — and more — to the list of things she blames for her 2016 loss

Hillary Clinton said Tuesday that she takes “absolute personal responsibility” for her 2016 loss. But she doesn’t, really.

Clinton suggested in an interview at a “Women for Women” event in New York that her forthcoming book would include plenty about how misogyny contributed to her loss, adding it to the blame she has assigned to FBI Director James B. Comey and Russian hacking. And by the end of the interview, she also blamed the debate questions she was asked.

The total picture was of a candidate only adding to the things she blames for her loss rather than truly looking inward. She acknowledged her own flaws, yes, but she also seemed to suggest they were rather inconsequential and at one point appeared to sarcastically dismiss the magnitude of them.

Asked whether misogyny played a role, Clinton said with a wry smile: “The book’s coming out in the fall.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... c1ef436342

"Buy the book"???? Really? How about "Learn to govern,stop insulting people, and insulting people's intelligence"? People still remember Hillary's history and many voters were turned-of by what she represents. Just accept it an move on.........
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Re: Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost

Post by kbot » 05-03-2017 04:24 AM

She's officially back.........

"I'm now back to being an activist citizen and part of the resistance," Clinton said, as the crowd responded with applause.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/02/hillary- ... tance.html


And Obama's rested after slumming it in French Polynesia on David Geffen's yacht........

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Former President Barack Obama announced plans to return to the public sphere, delivering a conversation at the University of Chicago about community organizing.

“This event is part of President Obama’s post-presidency goal to encourage and support the next generation of leaders driven by strengthening communities around the country and the world,” a media release from Obama’s staff announced.

Obama’s remarks are open to the media, but the advisory warns that the University would not be able to accommodate all requests.

Obama is also scheduled to receive a Kennedy Award in Boston in May and will appear in Germany for a conversation on global affairs with Chancellor Angela Merkel.

The New York Times reports that Obama will also begin delivering private paid speeches.

The former president and first lady were spotted on billionaire music mogul David Geffen’s $300 million yacht with Bruce Springsteen, Tom Hanks, and Oprah Winfery as well as vacationing with British billionaire Richard Branson on his private island. They were also seen brunching with U2’s Bono in New York City.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... ng-speech/

Sure, these two connect with America's poor and middle classes........... :roll:
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Re: Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost

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And CNN rushes to push the gender card.......

Hillary Clinton lost because of sexism

Which brings us to sexism. More than Russia spreading fake news, Comey's letter, controversy over her email servers, paid speeches and even failed strategy -- this is what kept Clinton from winning.

It was easy to see. Never in my lifetime has there been more misogyny on display than during the 2016 election. It was disgusting. The biggest offender: Donald Trump. The flat-out derisive language and more subtle "messaging" were so prevalent that we began to accept it.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/03/opinions/ ... m-robbins/

It couldn't possibly be that Hillary was a flawed candidate with a LOT of baggage, right? No it MUST BE that Hillary is a woman and everyone who didn't vote for Hillary are sexist misogynists.........
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Re: Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost

Post by Malaria_Kidd II » 05-04-2017 09:06 AM

kbot wrote just below Riddick's post of a pic so fitting! Among other pics just as fitting! 8)

"It couldn't possibly be that Hillary was a flawed candidate with a LOT of baggage, right? No it MUST BE that Hillary is a woman and everyone who didn't vote for Hillary are sexist misogynists........"

Right on kbot and the bag lady was wrong all the way to election day!

During one of too many debates between the many and then just the two. I got a quick cold chill of excitement when The Donald said, "If I was (president) you'd be in jail!" I thought to myself, "He actually said that!" :mrgreen: Never in the history of American's campaigning for POTUS was a flat out harsh statement like that so right! :P

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Re: Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost

Post by kbot » 05-04-2017 10:21 AM

Imagine if Hillary had won and Colbert said this............ I'm sure the entertainment gene pool would be reacting differently.

Celebrities Defend Stephen Colbert’s ‘C*ck Holster’ Joke

Several Hollywood celebrities came to Stephen Colbert’s defense this week after the Late Show host sparked a social media firestorm when he made what some critics called a homophobic and vitriolic joke about President Donald Trump during a broadcast.
“The only thing your mouth is good for is being Vladimir Putin’s c*ck holster,” Colbert said during his monologue on Monday night’s Late Show, during which he also called the president a “presi-dunce” and a “prick-tator.”

The joke elicited louder-than-usual laughs from Colbert’s studio audience; but the real reaction came later on social media, as thousands of viewers demanded that CBS penalize the late-night host for what they said was an anti-gay attack on the president, and the hashtag #FireColbert became a trending topic on Twitter.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/ ... ster-joke/

The lessons to be learned here are, apparently (a) Gay-jokes are OK PROVIDED THAT they are generated by the Left, and (b) sexist jokes by the media/ entertainment industry directed towards a sitting president are OK PROVIDED THAT they are generated by the Left.
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Re: Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost

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Oh, THIS explains everything now. Now, it's OK...........

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When he’s not in character, however, Colbert will more easily make an apology

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/art ... ef085fbecc

Oh, he's "in character". That's not REALLY Colbert up there talking, it's someone else....... :roll:

It's all better now............
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The Two Colberts

Post by Riddick » 05-05-2017 03:58 AM

So it's like that then eh? Using contriteness as a rule,
That's how we tell who from who?

Yet, which is which? Neither is funny,
And BOTH are in it for the money -

Stiil, long as there's a ratings bump,
There'll be a late night "Dump on Trump" -
So stay tuned folks for something new
From Colbert 1 AND Colbert 2!
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Re: Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost

Post by Malaria_Kidd II » 05-05-2017 09:14 AM

Last night Mike Gallagher was all over this one! At one time I liked this comedian but now, no! Katy-bar-the-doors, Lady Luck may not be his Guardian Angel, he's living dangerously with his finances. In my opinion I sure would not want to be sued by a multi billionaire! :oops:

Sic'em Donald :!:

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Re: Democrats say they now know exactly why Clinton lost

Post by kbot » 05-05-2017 11:16 AM

Yeah, we're headed down a slippery slope. Both sides need to stop to consider that, come some point in time, the shoe WILL be on the other foot and the party in power, wielding their power, will upset people along the way, and there WILL be payback at the polls.

The "loyal opposition" also needs to remember that all the mud being flung at the president and Congressional leadership now, will be picked-up later on and flung at their leaders and they should be prepared to act like the adults that they expect the GOP to act as now. Personally, I didn't see any evidence of those flinging the mud at Trump et al have the capacity to absorb insults without resorting to violence or crying foul as they must've done while in kindergarten.....

I only see things getting worse.
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