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"Promises We Can't Keep"

Posted: 07-27-2019 03:07 PM
by Riddick
"We've gotta fix entitlements. We're in debt because we made promises we can't keep to Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid."
- Sen. Lindsey Graham On The Ingraham Angle, 7/22/19

Solve the debt crisis, seniors get the shaft? A promise is a promise!! If our elected officials renege and place benefits people paid into on the chopping block big time, they better know there'll be ALL KINDS of hell to pay. And I'm talkin' both parties.

I'll be interested to see if saving SS & Medicare gets traction as an issue for 2020. It certainly won't be if there's no more public attention than it's getting right now.

Re: "Promises We Can't Keep"

Posted: 08-02-2019 12:07 PM
by Doka
There are also Retirement entitlements to PERS employees__which include teachers, firefighters and child welfare workers__don't have a large enough salary to weather more cuts.,

That last sentence is pure "Poopycock" ! Career public employees who worked from 1970 to 2000 often were entitled to retirement income replacement rates over 130% of their pre-retirement earnings.

Nice . Retire , get as much as %200 of what you made, including insurance and all the etcs . Retire to your multible homes and world travel. There is NO requirement, that you even be good at what you do, just plain old staying power, works.

The problem is It's BROKE, in Oregon to the tune of $30 to $50 BILLION! Guess who is paying......These Special Peoples Neighbors.

Teachers ,Firefighters(fire departments), Welfare Workers are essential , but NOT that Special to have Luxery Retirements, paid for by the rest of the working Stiffs. You will also notice that these Special People are Democrats, safe with their Democrat leaders, who also are written into the mix, as well as Republican legislaters. It is More apt to get fixed with a Republican though. Republicans do the hard stuff and get all the flack. Democrats are cowards, more interested in "look good" and being re-elected!

So ya there are a lot of promises and one thing you can bet on , Democrats Won't FIX anything, but they sure can make things a lot worse! That's from 50 years of watching them do it! No reason to hate them, that is simply the mind set they come with..........

"In 'Democratic Socialism' We Trust"

Posted: 08-02-2019 04:37 PM
by Riddick
Doka wrote: 08-02-2019 12:07 PMTeachers ,Firefighters(fire departments), Welfare Workers are essential , but NOT that Special to have Luxery Retirements, paid for by the rest of the working Stiffs. You will also notice that these Special People are Democrats, safe with their Democrat leaders, who also are written into the mix, as well as Republican legislaters. It is More apt to get fixed with a Republican though. Republicans do the hard stuff and get all the flack. Democrats are cowards, more interested in "look good" and being re-elected!

So ya there are a lot of promises and one thing you can bet on , Democrats Won't FIX anything, but they sure can make things a lot worse! That's from 50 years of watching them do it! No reason to hate them, that is simply the mind set they come with..........
Yep! On one hand, we have Dems decrying the Republicans, claiming eliminating SS & Medicare entirely is what the GOP is REALLY all about. OK then, so where's their plan to save them from insolvency? If Dems have one, you wouldn't know it-!!

All the 2020 Dems wanna talk about (aside all Republicans are racist and Trump is evil personified) is college debt forgiveness, free college for all, free healthcare for all including illegal aliens, reparations, and even universal basic WEALTH.

IMO it's not SS, Medicare or just any old thing, the Dems want to fix EVERYTHING. And save the planet to boot. We ALL put our minds on hold & do what we're told, with the "Almighty" Dems in power, we'll all live in the lap of luxury! BELIEVE IT!!

Re: "Promises We Can't Keep"

Posted: 08-02-2019 08:21 PM
by Doka
I don't see the Dems as wanting to "fix" anything, but to "Control" Everthing for sure! A question......Do you really believe that they can give every one , legal as well as illegal, all the "Freestuff" they promise?


Remember , these people are Socialist, no capitalism allowed, unless government run, and we all know or should, how well that works out.

Nothing Up My Sleeve... PRESTO!

Posted: 08-02-2019 09:03 PM
by Riddick
Doka wrote: 08-02-2019 08:21 PM I don't see the Dems as wanting to "fix" anything, but to "Control" Everthing for sure!
I guess you're right. Capitalism is irredeemable & can't be fixed. If you can't fix it OR control it the best thing is to destroy it.
Doka wrote: 08-02-2019 08:21 PMA question......Do you really believe that they can give every one , legal as well as illegal, all the "Freestuff" they promise?
Maybe. Depends on how much pixie dust they can collect.
Doka wrote: 08-02-2019 08:21 PM Remember , these people are Socialist, no capitalism allowed, unless government run, and we all know or should, how well that works out.
Yeah, that trick never works, still you can believe it'll all work out just fine donchaknow. It's like Bullwinkle trying to pull a rabbit out of a hat. "This Time For Sure!!"