Fiery crash collapses Bay Area freeway

Iris · Post by **Iris** » 05-01-2007 05:06 AM

HB3 wrote: Oh, now, looking around, I see this has developed into a big argument between skeptics and debunkers. My comment was only offhand.

Oh! I thought your only intent was to insult me and Sandy, since that's all you accomplished.

HB3 · Post by **HB3** » 05-01-2007 12:40 PM

Jesus. Maybe you could hire a detective to locate that missing sense of humor. In the meantime, here's an amusing thread....

http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comment ... nk=2772159

HB3 · Post by **HB3** » 05-01-2007 12:45 PM

And the original...

http://911blogger.com/node/8200

I see this debate is deadly as sin and challenging any article of faith, even in jest, generates manifestos on either side.

SETIsLady · Post by **SETIsLady** » 05-01-2007 01:00 PM

You don't mind if we get back to the original topic, it would seem this trucking company as well as the driver don't have a very good record.

Driver in Highway Collapse Has Rap Sheet

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"But court records show Mosqueda has a long criminal rap sheet, including drug and burglary arrests.

The fire destroyed the elevated section of highway that funnels traffic from the Bay Bridge to a number of key freeways.

Mosqueda had been a driver for his current employer, Sabek Transportation, for about 10 months when the crash occurred, Cross said.

In June 2006, another driver of a tanker operated by Sabek was ticketed for excessive speed when the dual-tanker he was driving overturned on an onramp in Vallejo, spilling 4,500 gallons of diesel, which drained into a nearby creek.

Several calls to Sabek by The Associated Press were either hung up on or forwarded to a voicemail box for Tom Saberi, who has previously been listed as an attorney for the company. Saberi did not return any of the messages seeking comment."

Shirleypal · Post by **Shirleypal** » 05-01-2007 05:04 PM

Interesting Linda, I have a friend who drives a tanker for Eagle in Tenn., he is required to have a drug test yearly plus a complete physical, they also check his back ground periodically. I don't know if this is just his companies policy or if it has anything to do with the state.

SETIsLady · Post by **SETIsLady** » 05-01-2007 05:10 PM

Don't know Shirley but I know we have some truckers here, would be interesting to hear thier input.

OMG · Post by **OMG** » 05-01-2007 05:24 PM

The image of the fire was insane and the aftermath was scary.

whskyfan · Post by **whskyfan** » 05-01-2007 07:56 PM

Shirleypal wrote: Interesting Linda, I have a friend who drives a tanker for Eagle in Tenn., he is required to have a drug test yearly plus a complete physical, they also check his back ground periodically. I don't know if this is just his companies policy or if it has anything to do with the state.

The DOT requires a physical every two years along with a drug test and also random drug testing. There is also a program in place, at least in California, that requires companies to review drivers records, but I believe that is only in relation to their driving record.

The other thing is that a CDL (commercial license) holder is part of a national data base. This was to prevent a driver with a bad record in one state going to another state and getting a new license.

SETIsLady · Post by **SETIsLady** » 05-02-2007 12:20 AM

Thanks whskyfan, I knew there was some regulations.

whskyfan · Post by **whskyfan** » 05-02-2007 06:27 AM

You're welcome. I haven't been involved much in the regulatory end of trucking for awhile, but I am sure that there is more regulation involved when the license is endorsed for hazardous materials. This would probably come under the Dept. of Homeland Stupidity, excuse me, Homeland Security...

SETIsLady · Post by **SETIsLady** » 05-02-2007 10:48 AM

Homeland Insecurity

Shirleypal · Post by **Shirleypal** » 05-02-2007 11:04 AM

Thanks whskyfan for the info, all driver licenses are on a national
data base.

skydancer · Post by **skydancer** » 05-02-2007 06:07 PM

Its a travesty of events for those living in the Bay area.

Iris · Post by **Iris** » 05-03-2007 12:58 AM

So how are things going there now traffic-wise?

whskyfan · Post by **whskyfan** » 05-03-2007 06:45 AM

Shirleypal wrote: Thanks whskyfan for the info, all driver licenses are on a national
data base.

I didn't know that the data base included all licenses. A good and bad thing I guess. I wonder how long it will be before a physical will be required for every driver?