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TURBINE TURMOIL: Proposed WI Wind Project Incites Residents

Posted: 04-28-2019 12:08 AM
by Riddick
LOOK! Up In The Sky! Is It A Bird? Is It A Plane?
NO! It's A Dairy State Public POWER STRUGGLE
Industrial Turbines VS Cow Farts?? Place Your Bets, Folks!

Proponents Say Project Will Invigorate Town, Help Environment; Others Fear Property Values, Health Will Decline

Edited/Excerpted from Sarah Whites-Koditschek's Investigative Journalism article:

Cindy Blanc and her husband, Peter Minucci, are freelance musicians who moved to 5 acres in the countryside in south-central Wisconsin for the scenic views and serenity.
Blanc leans against the glass door to her expansive backyard where they see a lot of wildlife, including owls. "This is the best place to watch stars ever because there’s no light out here," she said. "Now we’ll have … flashing lights."

Blanc was referring to EDF Renewables' 24 turbine Sugar River Wind Project proposal, spread over 5,870 acres with the capacity to provide power for 20,000 homes. Currently, wind power provides less than 3% of Wisconsin’s electricity.

Blanc learned about the project from an EDF email. Each nearly 500 feet tall, one turbine tower would be 1,500 feet from the couple’s home in the town of Jefferson, a rural farming community of 1,200 people near the Illinois border in Green County.

As large wind and solar projects have begun cropping up in rural areas the fight between residents and renewable energy is playing out in Wisconsin and other states. Blanc said she is not anti-wind, she just does not think turbines should be close to residences.

"We’re working musicians. We have no pension. We have no retirement. So this 5 acres and this janky old farm house, is like, it," Blanc said. “This is what we’ve worked for our entire lives." Worrying its value will fall, she asks "Who is going to want to buy it living in the shadow of giant, industrial wind?"


In excess of 70 Jefferson community members faced three town board members and the town attorney at an evening board meeting in late February, booing and jeering at times. The board was considering a possible wind ordinance after months of public pressure.

Under law, local governments passing wind ordinances gain the power to regulate, approve or reject a wind project, within bounds set by the state. Some residents like Blanc wanted the town to push the limits of the law and require setbacks from residences greater than the standard for properties not a part of the project.

The town planning commission supported those changes. But the town’s attorney, Daniel Bartholf, advised the board against challenging the law, as did an EDF attorney. Ultimately, the town board rejected the proposed ordinance. Chair Harvey Mandel said in an interview he did not want to approve an ordinance that would invite a lawsuit.

He also dismissed suggestions of unethical conduct by town officials. One board member and a planning commission member recused themselves from the decision process because they hold land leases with EDF. According to Michael Vickerman, Renew Wisconsin Policy Director, the average annual lease for hosting a turbine in Wisconsin is worth roughly $5,000 to $7,000 a year.

Two people stood to speak in favor of the project; about 10 people spoke against. In interviews prior to the meeting, some residents said they have heard people living near turbines can be disturbed by flashing shadows and low-frequency noise from the blades' rotation, causing headaches, nausea, lost sleep and other health issues.

The World Health Organization has identified sound from wind turbines as a health risk, although it acknowledges "very little evidence is available about the adverse health effects of continuous exposure to wind turbine noise."

A farmer in the town of Kendall in Lafayette County, also near the Illinois border, Micah Bahr supports renewable energy; he has an array of solar panels next to his barn. But Bahr spoke against the Jefferson project at the meeting. Bahr lives about three-fourths of a mile from a wind turbine. He believes it is giving him headaches, which vanish when he goes indoors.

"I was wondering why I was getting a headache," he said in an interview at his farm. "Then it dawned on me that there was a … a lull, humming type sound that was coming when the wind comes out of the south."

EDF Development Director PJ Saliterman said in an interview allegations of negative health effects are a 'myth.' "Too often fear and misinformation … from web-based sources are used to drive wedges in communities in between neighbors," he said.

“I’m tired of waking up with a knot in my stomach going through ranges of emotions", Dan Kundert said, who with his wife Linda and their son Brent are Green County dairy farmers who may soon live next to several towering wind turbines. “We just never thought of this area as an industrial area, and the turbines kind of make it that,” she said.

The Kunderts fear they and their dairy cows will suffer health problems from the turbines. Jennifer Van Os, a UW-Madison assistant professor of dairy science, said she knows of no scientific research published on the effects of wind turbines on cattle.

Among the few attendees willing to take a pro-project stand at the Jefferson Town Board meeting were truck driver Tim Bender and wife Linda, a stay-at-home mom. "We have maybe three days out of the year when we don’t have wind. Why shouldn’t we benefit from it?" Tim said; “I just can’t stand to sit back and watch an opportunity pass us by.”

Re: TURBINE TURMOIL: Proposed WI Wind Project Incites Residents

Posted: 04-28-2019 11:07 AM
by Doka
Not with-out risk. :?:

Adverse health effects of industrial wind turbines

Canadian family physicians can expect to see increasing numbers of rural patients reporting adverse effects from exposure to industrial wind turbines (IWTs). People who live or work in close proximity to IWTs have experienced symptoms that include decreased quality of life, annoyance, stress, sleep disturbance, headache, anxiety, depression, and cognitive dysfunction. Some have also felt anger, grief, or a sense of injustice. Suggested causes of symptoms include a combination of wind turbine noise, infrasound, dirty electricity, ground current, and shadow flicker.1 Family physicians should be aware that patients reporting adverse effects from IWTs might experience symptoms that are intense and pervasive and might feel further victimized by a lack of caregiver understanding.

Re: TURBINE TURMOIL: Proposed WI Wind Project Incites Residents

Posted: 04-28-2019 01:53 PM
by Doka
In the Article below, they call hydropower(water) the most dangerous. That is purely because, some of the dams have interfered with the salmon runs. (DNA wise the salmon of 50 years ago are not the same fish we have today, anyway, but awhole nother story) Other wise it is about as "clean" as you can get through an aging leaky grid. All you are really doing is exchanging, reliable water, nuclear,coal power for "Iffy" wind source. I simply do not see that as a practical source, since there is a storage problem, yet to be solved for these "monsters" for non-wind days. Then there is the problem of Transmission lines. In any city you see poles with massive amounts of lines on them going in every direction, with transformers on them(they tend to blow every once on awhile)dangerous to the environment and definately to humans, but that will all remain. The electomagnetic fields around the monster turbines, that hydro power generates is always higher at the source. Can you immagine the millions of these same Turbine Driven Windmills in everyones neighborhood!?

You will notice that the symptoms of those exposed in a close location to The Wind Mills are the same, but sometimes worse when called what it is....exposure to EMF radiation.

These things are Massive! And are getting bigger. If you have not gone and stood by one, you simply have no idea! I went with some friends, who helped me stay upright, when I Looked up at one. Other wise save you self some embarrassment, and lay down and look up for the best effect.

When Obamie was giving our money away to his pals , they where paid to build them. The area that I live in ,have thousands of them , you simply Can Not drive anywhere without them being in view.! When builders, took the money and filed bankruptcy, you started seeing some mangled, blades, oil leakage from blown valves, and even some that totally fell down. They do require constant maintenance.

My hope is that something far better will rise as a replacement power source, otherwise we are just keeping the same problems , and putting some "lipstick" on the same old agenda, transforming, the natural beauty of our landscapes into landscapes with marching , unreliable Monsters.

Among 'green' energy, hydropower is the most dangerous ... 103148.htm

Electromagnetic fields (EMF)
What are electromagnetic fields? ... ndex1.html

How big is a wind turbine?

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Posted: 04-28-2019 06:34 PM
by Riddick
Doka wrote:
04-28-2019 11:07 AM
Not with-out risk. :?:

Adverse health effects of industrial wind turbines
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Re: TURBINE TURMOIL: Proposed WI Wind Project Incites Residents

Posted: 04-29-2019 06:25 PM
by Doka

"Why not put wind turbines offshore?: Sadly, offshore wind farms are more costly than land ones, , therefore we cannot currently enjoy the financial benefit that we would expect to from higher offshore wind speeds, but, researchers are working on this and making progress. The cost of maintenance for offshore wind turbines is a major problem and it has been addressed by the development of gearless wind turbines, which require less maintenance. This does not necessarily mean that gearless turbines are best for use on land."

"Typical wind turbines are geared (meaning that the turbine hub is used to turn a gear which turns another gear at a different speed from itself). Securing wind turbines offshore: Offshore wind turbines can either be secured by burying the tower deep in the ocean floor, if the water is shallow, or by setting up a floating platform that it stands on which is tethered to the ocean floor via steel cables in deepwater. Since offshore locations have a greater wind power density, I conveniently put the wind power density section right below this one."

More About Wind Power

Wind Turbines Around The Great Lakes? A Terrible Idea For Birds, Bats

Posted: 05-01-2019 12:51 AM
by Riddick
The rush is on to build scores of large, commercial wind energy facilities in and around the Great Lakes, in Canada and the United States. From the proposed Galloo Island and Lighthouse projects in New York to Camp Perry and Icebreaker in Ohio and Amherst Island and White Pines in Ontario, developers are looking to flood the region with renewable energy. But at what cost?
From the perspective of wildlife conservation, the Great Lakes are one of the worst possible places to put wind energy. During spring and fall, these large freshwater lakes pose a significant barrier to birds and bats during their annual migration to and from the boreal forests of Canada where they breed.

Vast numbers of birds and bats, many of which migrate at night, gather along the shorelines and eventually fly along or over the lakes. Advanced radar studies conducted by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in Michigan, Ohio and New York have all confirmed the danger that large-scale wind energy development poses to migratory birds and bats in the region.

The Great Lakes themselves are also an important habitat for water birds. Lake Erie was recently designated a Globally Important Bird Area because of the large numbers of water birds that use the lake. Large-scale commercial wind turbines have the potential to threaten or displace them.

Only through proper risk assessment, siting and post-construction monitoring can such conflicts with wildlife be avoided or contained. At present, regulations governing siting are weak at best. Paid consultants to the wind industry conduct the risk assessments and also collect and report post-construction mortality data — a direct conflict of interest. Some companies have sued to keep their data secret, making public oversight difficult if not impossible.

If any area in the United States and Canada should be avoided for wind energy development, it is the Great Lakes region, one of the world's largest confluences of migratory birds and bats. The cumulative impact of the many existing and planned projects in the region could be substantial and cannot be evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

Pshaw! Is this guy a loon or what. Who needs birds and bats? We can't let overblown concerns about little things get in the way of wind power progress. Planet saving overrides ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING ELSE. So screw rural folk AND flying creatures too! Face it: Industrial turbines are the future, folks. END OF STORY.

Green Like Astroturf

Posted: 05-01-2019 02:29 PM
by Riddick
WIND TURBINE MANUFACTURING : Industrial Pollution On A Disastrous Scale
Standing at its edge, an old farmer stares despairingly out across an immense six mile wide lake of bubbling toxic waste covered in black dust. He remembers it as fields of wheat and corn.

This vast, hissing chemical cauldron in Baotou, China has been the dumping ground for 7 million tons a year of mined rare earth after it has been doused in acid and chemicals and processed through red-hot furnaces to extract its components.

The lake instantly assaults your senses. Stand on the black crust for just seconds and your eyes water and a powerful, acrid stench fills your lungs. Those who live in the village of Dalahai, and other villages around, breathe in the same poison every day.

People began to suffer. Dalahai villagers say their teeth began to fall out, their hair turned white at unusually young ages, and they suffered from severe skin and respiratory diseases. Children were born with soft bones and cancer rates rocketed.

Official studies carried out in Dalahai village confirmed unusually high rates of cancer along with high rates of osteoporosis & skin and respiratory diseases. Lake radiation levels are 10 times more than the surrounding countryside, the studies found.

Since then, maybe because of pressure from the companies operating around the lake, which pump out waste 24 hours a day, the results of ongoing radiation and toxicity tests carried out on the lake have been kept secret and officials have refused to publicly acknowledge health risks to nearby villages.

As more factories spring up, the banks grow higher, the lake grows larger and the stench and fumes grow more overwhelming. In the pollution-blighted city of Baotou, most people wear face masks everywhere they go.

What's left behind after making magnets for wind turbines, this toxic lake poisoning Chinese farmers, their children and their land is merely one of a multitude of environmental sins committed in the name of our new green Jerusalem.

At 74, dedicated Communist Yan Man Jia Hong still believes in his revolutionary heroes, but despises the young local officials and entrepreneurs who let this happen. "Chairman Mao was a hero and saved us," he says. "But these people only care about money. They destroyed our lives."


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In an unknown corner of Inner Mongolia is a toxic, nightmarish lake created by a thirst for gadgets & green technologies we're so smugly excited about in the West

Another blow to the pro wind lobby? Nah. Most folks'll never know; More than a few who do won't care. Screw rural Americans, winged creatures & Chinese farmers. All anyone needs to know is wind is the answer! Save the Planet! Repeat ad nauseam.