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"Real Socialism" Has Indeed Been Tried... And It's Been A Disaster

Post by Doka » 05-06-2018 12:30 PM

The Vast search equality, fairness, justice, the Utopia that will be NEVER reached. But will cause the greatest pain, while looking for it. Now you know why "Group Think" and Destroying the History is so important to the Lefty Liberals, the Sheeple are being groomed for the "slaughter" .


"Real Socialism" Has Indeed Been Tried... And It's Been A Disaster


Authored by Ryan McMaken via The Mises Institute,

May 5th marked the 200th Anniversary of Karl Marx's birth, and in spite of inspiring a wide variety of political movements that have caused countless human rights disasters, Marx continues to be an object of admiration among many intellectuals and artists. One such example can be seen in Raoul Peck's new film The Young Karl Marx which portrays Marx is a principled radical with a laudable thirst for justice. 

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Nevertheless, after a century marked by brutal socialist regimes based on various interpretations of Marx's ideas, Marx's rehabilitation often rests on the idea that "real socialism" has "never been tried." That is, a truly "pure" socialist experience — as Marx presumably wanted — has always been tainted by the presence of bourgeois ideas or lingering capitalistic habits present in the state apparatus. 

A typical example of this sort of thinking can be found in Noam Chomsky's insistence that the obviously socialist regime in Venezuela is really "quite remote from socialism." And it's also notable in philosopher Slavoj Zizek's 2017 article " The problem with Venezuela’s revolution is that it didn’t go far enough" at The Guardian. 

In Zizek's view, it seems, socialism can work if the habits and customs of the status quo are destroyed utterly and replaced by entirely new ways of thinking. Or, as Zizek's describes it, old proverbs (i.e., modes of thought) must be totally replaced by new proverbs. For example: 

Radical revolutionaries like Robespierre fail because they just enact a break with the past without succeeding in their effort to enforce a new set of customs (recall the utmost failure of Robespierre’s idea to replace religion with the new cult of a Supreme Being). The leaders like Lenin and Mao succeeded (for some time, at least) because they invented new proverbs, which means that they imposed new customs that regulated daily lives.

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As hyperbolic as such a statement may seem, this idea nevertheless fundamentally describes the mindset of those who claim "socialism has never really been tried"; if socialism is to be implemented, something must be done to relieve people of their attachment to private property and all the other customs and ideas that get in the way of utopia. 


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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05- ... n-disaster
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Post by Doka » 08-14-2018 12:15 PM

Socialism.........The People give up every once of ownership of anything, turn it over to the Government so it can take "Care" of them and give them free stuff with their own money, and call it equality. After the people are drained dry, they head for the Real Heart of Socialism, Stealing From Others! :twisted: :evil:



Venezuelan Pirates Spread Fear Across The Caribbean

Authored by Joseph Lafave via The Daily Caller,

Vessels sailing in the vicinity of Trinidad and Tobago are now under threat of being the victims of piracy for the first since the 1700s. According to a report from the Washington Post, in the wake of Venezuela’s economic and societal collapse, criminals desperate to earn a living have taken up the centuries-old crime and are attacking yachts and fishing vessels along the coast of South America.

Jeremy McDermott of Insight Crime, a nonprofit that studies organized crime in the region told the Washington Post that “It’s criminal chaos, a free-for-all, along the Venezuelan coast.”

Although there hasn’t been much research into piracy in the Caribbean, one study from the nonprofit group Oceans Beyond Piracy found that pirate attacks in the region rose by 163 percent between 2016 and 2017. Some experts fear that pirate activity and other crimes in the Caribbean Sea will increase as conditions in the socialist country continue to deteriorate.

“This reminds me of how the problems started off the coast of eastern Africa," said Roodal Moonilal, a politician from Trinidad and Tobago while speaking to the Washington Post. “What we’re seeing – the piracy, the smuggling – it’s the result of Venezuela’s political and economic collapse.”

While the region has seen traffickers use ports in Trinidad to move drugs from Colombia and Venezuela to North America in the past, the new pirates are ratcheting up the violence to levels that haven’t been seen by mariners in the region since the time of Blackbeard.


One witness recounted his experience of being attacked by the pirates to reporters and stated that they were “doused with hot oil, hacked with machetes and thrown overboard, then their boats were stolen."


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Thanks for posting Riddick.


So this "Successful" Socialist Country as far as Health Care, is dependent on the success of capitalist American for it's technology and innovation. Otherwise , "Get Back In Line" , doing it the Socialist Way. Sounds about right.

No wonder it looks so good on paper!

Of course when the US is flipped to Socialism, we the people may find ourselves back to leeches, only Capitalism Creates New , Anything.
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Post by Doka » 11-01-2018 01:12 PM

American Socialism through the Prism of Marxism

Few events in history rival the gap between exuberant optimism and tumultuous reality, great dreams and vain illusions, as the spread of socialism. Its rise and fall constituted one of the most tragic episodes of the last century. It has created unparalleled violence, millions of innocent victims, modern slavery, and environmental disasters of biblical proportions. The movement has gone from spectacular triumphs to humiliating defeats – from victory in Russia in 1917 and the conquest of Eastern Europe and China in the 1930s and 1940s to what seemed an unstoppable march in Africa and Latin America in the 1960s and 1970s, and then to the spectacular implosion of the Soviet Union, the liberation of Eastern Europe, and the economic liberalization of China.

What is socialism? Who are American socialists, and what are they fighting for? Socialism is a political philosophy and economic system that promotes egalitarianism – a theory of economic equality. It is usually defined as "common ownership of the means of production," which is in the ballpark of the definition given by Karl Marx.

Lenin defined socialism as a society organized on the principle "from each according to his abilities and to each according to his work [contribution]."

But Barack Obama nailed it. In his speech in Berlin, Germany on July 24, 2008, he declared:

This is the moment when we must build on the wealth that open markets have created, and share its benefits more equitably.


Obama clearly was talking about not wealth creation, which would be capitalism, but wealth distribution, which is socialism.


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Post by Doka » 11-01-2018 02:32 PM

The above is an excellent article, for those that can read and have an ounce of comprehension left in them.

People light up when they hear about wealth (Re-) distribution. Wow! Going to be a chance to get some of that "Wealth" that you hate "Them" for having. Now here is the reality check for the "Ship of Fools" . How much money did ya'all get from Hillary and Obamie, while they where out stealing the country blind? What was your cut from Hillary's selling your American asset, Uranium, to the Russians? How much of the stolen , disappeared money did you get from Obamie? Well, my checks must have gotten lost in the mail too.

Do you really think that Your needs are going to be met, by these Greedy, Power Hungery, Demons. That a loveing , caring, sharing, Hilary, is going to give you a nickel of what she has already stolen from you? Wake Up!

The most discusting thing is, that there is no bottom, to this Re-distributing of wealth, eventually, it will get to the last nickel you and your family have......it's theirs. So is the food, clean water, a place to live and your country ALL GONE. You say that won't Happen, They Wouldn't do that to me! Ask the people of Venezuela , many of whom, know not , of what ,got them to where they are now!

Greed is Greed it is relevant, meaning the greed of the poor is the same greed of the rich, no different. But the out come is vastly different the rich have the power ,plus the power, of their loyal, but stupid followers, that have been bought off with free stuff, that will be removed as soon or sooner, that their "Usefullness" is over. They Are a loud, whiney bunch after all!
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'Nice' Socialism

Post by Riddick » 11-01-2018 03:20 PM

"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have."

But if a government is nice enough to give you free stuff in the first place, they wouldn't turn around and take it all away, would they? Unless it's 'fake' niceness and not the real deal.

The problem isn't big government or socialism. Mean government is the problem. So don't vote for meanies, vote for Bernies!

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Post by Doka » 11-08-2018 01:59 PM

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11-01-2018 03:20 PM
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have."
So true, Just try and tell that to a bunch of Emotional Nitwits. Propaganda works, and The People have been primed and are now ready to go........ When I and others promise nothing but pain in our future, it is considered, nothing more Than Republican Propaganda , Facts, are totally useless to those who can Not Reason. I was told a long time ago that this was to be part of our Future, it has been difficult to watch the Culmination of what I thought was only some sort of prophecy, silly me, I really need Never doubt, the Source of the information, ever again!

It is Not pleasent to have to watch humans finally obtaining what they truly deserve. For the rest, keep your cool, and be assured you have safe passage. If you have not drank the Koolaid, by now, your soul is intact. Learning how to let the Human Lemmings do the Jump, is a tuff one , just another test.
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Post by Raggedyann » 11-08-2018 02:11 PM

No wage increases in 20 yrs. Prices of health care, food and everything else has skyrocketed but millions can't afford them because they don't make a living wage. The crooks on Wall Street sucked people into a scheme that made them rich because capitalism allowed them to. Only one crook went to the clink. But none of this probably affected any of you directly so who gives a crap about anyone else? I'm alright Jack so screw you. That is the right wing mentality.
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Post by Raggedyann » 11-08-2018 02:18 PM

Red State Voters Like Democratic Ideas Much More Than Democratic Candidates
From Florida to Missouri to Utah, progressive ballot measures won as their advocates lost. How does the party fix that?

Perhaps the most promising development for progressive Democrats in Tuesday’s elections came from ballot initiatives in conservative territory. Over the course of the evening, progressives notched policy victory after policy victory in red state after red state.

Voters raised the minimum wage in Arkansas and Missouri. They expanded Medicaid coverage to more than 300,000 people in Utah, Nebraska and Idaho. In Florida, they restored voting rights to over 1.2 million convicted felons ― a civil rights victory that will transform the state’s electorate of 16 million. Utah ― Utah! ― legalized medical marijuana.

Most of these initiatives weren’t close. The Arkansas minimum wage hike cleared by a margin of more than 2-to-1. The similar Missouri measure passed by nearly 30 percentage points, about even with the vote on an August primary measure to help unions in the state. Florida’s voting rights amendment passed 64 percent to 36 percent.

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Socialism Prime

Post by Riddick » 11-08-2018 04:29 PM

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11-08-2018 01:59 PM
The People have been primed and are now ready to go........
We have to go somewhere? Oh what a cheat!

I was told we'd have our free stuff delivered.

OVERNIGHT. None of this 2-day shipping sh!t

We're entitled - So give us our stuff! N O W.

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Post by Doka » 11-08-2018 05:57 PM

No wage increases in 20 yrs. Prices of health care, food and everything else has skyrocketed but millions can't afford them because they don't make a living wage. The crooks on Wall Street sucked people into a scheme that made them rich because capitalism allowed them to

What Country is this, that you are talking about??


Capitalisim is what puts food on the shelves of the grocery store, and farmers market, gives heat in the winter, a car to drive, and pot to smoke, that house you bought, the clothes you wear, the computer you use, the machine to wash your clothes. You won't notice all the stuff, until it's gone.........all that nasty stuff that made life easier. I'm sure you worked for free, being such a Happy, Socialist that you are.
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