Our Shaking Earth
It's earthquake week on Dreamland. We lead off with a report from Linda Moulton Howe about the earthquake swarm that took place off the coast of Oregon last week. Does it mean a major quake is on the way that could strike the Pacific Northwest? Linda has the best scientific information available.
Then independent earthquake researcher Frank Condon spends an hour with Whitley discussing the actual condition of our earth, and telling us things that the conventional scientists are afraid to explore.
Later, Linda Howe has an additional report on the Bird Flu danger.
12 March 2005: Our Shaking Earth--Linda Howe, Frank Condon
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12 March 2005: Our Shaking Earth--Linda Howe, Frank Condon
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Go to Unknown Country and click on "Dreamland" under "Radio Programs" in the upper right corner of the screen. The program is supposed to be available from Saturday afternoon onwards, but is often up sooner. This time it was there on Friday evening.
Frank Condon sounds like rather a tough interview subject for Whitley--he's sometimes vague on specifics, and other times speaks in very technical terms that he ought to be explaining more for the audience. Whitley really had to pull the information out of him.
This afternoon (Saturday 12 March), Whitley is supposed to be in the Unknown Country subscriber section chat room for an hour starting at 1 p.m. PST, to answer questions about the world earthquake situation and the recent paper in Science putting forth evidence for a consistent 62-million-year extinction cycle for the earth. I'm going to try to be there.
You might also check out Linda Moulton Howe's report on the earthquake swarm on Earthfiles.com..
Frank Condon sounds like rather a tough interview subject for Whitley--he's sometimes vague on specifics, and other times speaks in very technical terms that he ought to be explaining more for the audience. Whitley really had to pull the information out of him.
This afternoon (Saturday 12 March), Whitley is supposed to be in the Unknown Country subscriber section chat room for an hour starting at 1 p.m. PST, to answer questions about the world earthquake situation and the recent paper in Science putting forth evidence for a consistent 62-million-year extinction cycle for the earth. I'm going to try to be there.
You might also check out Linda Moulton Howe's report on the earthquake swarm on Earthfiles.com..
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Anchors Aweigh
Hello there Swerdloc'..
As you know, and I also remember the fine reports you posted after a listen to Dreamland...
This is a program I'd liked to have listened to, but having audio problems with this PC..
So' if you wouldn't mind.. Can you kinda give a thumbnail' or the botton line...
Does it look like it's starting up for some big time shakes?
I kinda thought so...
Anything we need to know fer sure?
Thank you, dear and fateful reporter' of the Dreamland programs.
As you know, and I also remember the fine reports you posted after a listen to Dreamland...
This is a program I'd liked to have listened to, but having audio problems with this PC..
So' if you wouldn't mind.. Can you kinda give a thumbnail' or the botton line...
Does it look like it's starting up for some big time shakes?
I kinda thought so...
Anything we need to know fer sure?
Thank you, dear and fateful reporter' of the Dreamland programs.
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Dreamland: Interview with Frank Condon, 12 March 2005
Dreamland: Interview with Frank Condon, 12 March 2005
Whitley talks to Frank Condon, an independent seismic researcher, and asks him how he got into the field. Condon says he started researching earthquake precursors after the Landers, CA, earthquake in 1992, which was around a 7.3 on the Richter scale. Hours before the quake, he noticed audible changes in animals in the area—he was living about 50 miles away—who were exhibiting changes in their stress levels by the noises they made: coyotes, birds, dogs, etc., all making a lot of noise about 1 a.m. Whitley remarks on the actions of animals in the recent Indian Ocean tsunami, who saved themselves and, in some cases, people.
Condon mentions various academic studies over the past 30 years on the relation of animal behavior to (coming) earthquakes, which have not come to any conclusions. He said his brother noticed curious behavior by rabbits shortly before the 6.5 Big Bear earthquake. He has been looking at trends, but has not found anything too conclusive—for example, what animals might be doing, or what other phenomena might obtain, three days before a quake.
Whitley says it is his observation, looking at USGS data over the past couple of years, that the trend is toward more and stronger quakes; and he asks Condon if that is accurate. Condon says it’s hard to determine on a global basis, because there are more and better sensors worldwide, which can result in more reporting of mid-size quakes. Nevertheless, he feels there are more of the major-thrust-type quakes. Whitley mentions the major quake near Tasmania shortly before the Indian Ocean quake.
Whitley also notes the major flash from a magnetar that hit the earth about 40 hours after the Indian Ocean quake; Condon was not aware of this. Every explosion like this is preceded by a gravity wave—which was not detected beforehand. Condon says he believes that solar flares “recharge” the earth, and the energy has to come out somewhere—as in earthquakes. He mentions the correspondence between the solar/sunspot cycle and earthquakes; for example, a solar cycle ended about 1960, and the Chilean earthquake happened shortly thereafter.
They discuss the logarithmic Richter scale, which doesn’t really go beyond 10. For example, a magnitude 9 has 100 times more energy than a magnitude 7—which in itself is a large quake.
Condon talks about the “GSL Special report” on his website, which traces earthquakes starting in about 2000. He does not disregard the small “microquakes,” which all feed into his ability to forecast, and he speculates about long-distance coupling effects across the extent of the Pacific plate.
He also talks about projections for the Inland Empire area, which has had several major quakes over the last 100 years. He believes a quake along the San Jacinto fault would be more devastating than one on the San Andreas fault, because of the population centers in proximity to the faults.
Condon talks about three conjugate faults: the Sierra Madre, the San Jacinto, and the San Andreas—which could cause significant damage if one fault does not provide relief for the others. In terms of predicting quakes, we still do not have a reliable system aside from the dogs, cats, and coyotes.
He says that he feels the San Jacinto fault is taking most of the stress right now, and that the stress is building. He doesn’t have a prediction for when in might result in a major quake.
Whitley also asks about the La Palma volcano in the Canary Islands, which is going to collapse sometime and probably result in a whopper tsunami in the Atlantic. No one is doing much about that right now. There have also been considerable tsunamis in the Pacific Northwest, including one in the 1700s. And one hit Northern California following the Anchorage quake in 1964. Whitley mentions the elaborate warning system for tsunamis in Japan, which we lack. As things stand, a tsunami hitting either coast of the USA would probably come pretty much without warning. Condon says the primary obstacle to establishing a good warning system is cost, for a system of decent seismometers.
Whitley asks what area in the US should be watched most closely right now, and Condon says the American side of the Pacific plate, especially in light of the quakes off Tasmania and Sumatra. He’s still studying the data to see if the lasting effect is local or more global.
In terms of prediction, we seem still to be very uncertain—we have the animals, and psychics, and people who are biological sensors.
Condon’s website is GeoSeismic Labs. There is plentiful information there, as well as on Earthfiles.
Whitley talks to Frank Condon, an independent seismic researcher, and asks him how he got into the field. Condon says he started researching earthquake precursors after the Landers, CA, earthquake in 1992, which was around a 7.3 on the Richter scale. Hours before the quake, he noticed audible changes in animals in the area—he was living about 50 miles away—who were exhibiting changes in their stress levels by the noises they made: coyotes, birds, dogs, etc., all making a lot of noise about 1 a.m. Whitley remarks on the actions of animals in the recent Indian Ocean tsunami, who saved themselves and, in some cases, people.
Condon mentions various academic studies over the past 30 years on the relation of animal behavior to (coming) earthquakes, which have not come to any conclusions. He said his brother noticed curious behavior by rabbits shortly before the 6.5 Big Bear earthquake. He has been looking at trends, but has not found anything too conclusive—for example, what animals might be doing, or what other phenomena might obtain, three days before a quake.
Whitley says it is his observation, looking at USGS data over the past couple of years, that the trend is toward more and stronger quakes; and he asks Condon if that is accurate. Condon says it’s hard to determine on a global basis, because there are more and better sensors worldwide, which can result in more reporting of mid-size quakes. Nevertheless, he feels there are more of the major-thrust-type quakes. Whitley mentions the major quake near Tasmania shortly before the Indian Ocean quake.
Whitley also notes the major flash from a magnetar that hit the earth about 40 hours after the Indian Ocean quake; Condon was not aware of this. Every explosion like this is preceded by a gravity wave—which was not detected beforehand. Condon says he believes that solar flares “recharge” the earth, and the energy has to come out somewhere—as in earthquakes. He mentions the correspondence between the solar/sunspot cycle and earthquakes; for example, a solar cycle ended about 1960, and the Chilean earthquake happened shortly thereafter.
They discuss the logarithmic Richter scale, which doesn’t really go beyond 10. For example, a magnitude 9 has 100 times more energy than a magnitude 7—which in itself is a large quake.
Condon talks about the “GSL Special report” on his website, which traces earthquakes starting in about 2000. He does not disregard the small “microquakes,” which all feed into his ability to forecast, and he speculates about long-distance coupling effects across the extent of the Pacific plate.
He also talks about projections for the Inland Empire area, which has had several major quakes over the last 100 years. He believes a quake along the San Jacinto fault would be more devastating than one on the San Andreas fault, because of the population centers in proximity to the faults.
Condon talks about three conjugate faults: the Sierra Madre, the San Jacinto, and the San Andreas—which could cause significant damage if one fault does not provide relief for the others. In terms of predicting quakes, we still do not have a reliable system aside from the dogs, cats, and coyotes.
He says that he feels the San Jacinto fault is taking most of the stress right now, and that the stress is building. He doesn’t have a prediction for when in might result in a major quake.
Whitley also asks about the La Palma volcano in the Canary Islands, which is going to collapse sometime and probably result in a whopper tsunami in the Atlantic. No one is doing much about that right now. There have also been considerable tsunamis in the Pacific Northwest, including one in the 1700s. And one hit Northern California following the Anchorage quake in 1964. Whitley mentions the elaborate warning system for tsunamis in Japan, which we lack. As things stand, a tsunami hitting either coast of the USA would probably come pretty much without warning. Condon says the primary obstacle to establishing a good warning system is cost, for a system of decent seismometers.
Whitley asks what area in the US should be watched most closely right now, and Condon says the American side of the Pacific plate, especially in light of the quakes off Tasmania and Sumatra. He’s still studying the data to see if the lasting effect is local or more global.
In terms of prediction, we seem still to be very uncertain—we have the animals, and psychics, and people who are biological sensors.
Condon’s website is GeoSeismic Labs. There is plentiful information there, as well as on Earthfiles.
Anchors Aweigh
Thank you Swerdloc'.. That was very infomative..
So it really comes down to the animal kingdom that have their ear to the ground.
They no doubt feel the wave forms within the earth' and know when the rug is going to be pulled out from under them..
Us.
Thank you again for taking the time to post this.
You are a good man.
So it really comes down to the animal kingdom that have their ear to the ground.
They no doubt feel the wave forms within the earth' and know when the rug is going to be pulled out from under them..
Us.
Thank you again for taking the time to post this.
You are a good man.
Thank you Swerd
For the informative material you have posted. We do have to set up a system for our coast lines. We always seem to have lots of money to send elsewhere and do not take care of our own like we should.
Hoping for best scenario.
Thank you again for the post. You are appreciated for the time you spent giving us a heads up on what was said. You took time out of your day to help us and we are thankful to you...
Hoping for best scenario.
Thank you again for the post. You are appreciated for the time you spent giving us a heads up on what was said. You took time out of your day to help us and we are thankful to you...
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