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Art Bell Breaks Silence On Ebola

Post by Riddick » 10-09-2014 03:02 PM

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Post by Fan » 10-14-2014 03:50 PM

Art is pulling all the stops on FB with the Ebola fear-mongering. He is right back at the level of the Iraq war fear-mongering. Basically saying shut all borders, it will kill 90% of the population, it is the end times, etc etc.. Peddling some sort of anti-ebola schemes...

From a few minutes ago:
The ONLY thing the media is talking about are the few sparks that have blown over here from the raging fire in Africa that can not be stopped, what do we do here, wait for those home care kits mentioned in the MUST article below. Closing Borders is the least we can do and yes I understand the economic and human effects that will result.
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The facts on the ground do not support what the CDC is saying about the way it is and is not spread. The borders should be closed to any Civil traffic from infected nations at a minimum.
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Post by Dude111 » 10-15-2014 05:58 PM

Ya Art bell is a mainstream idiot!!!!!!! (He says he believes the official 9/11 fairy tale (Who knows if he really does or not))

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Post by Riddick » 10-15-2014 11:59 PM

If Art is a mainstream idiot, I guess that puts George Noory in a class by himself?

I mean, he's the host who's dumbed down C2C beyond mere mainstream idiocy...

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Post by Riddick » 10-16-2014 01:11 AM

FLASHBACK: Saturday, December 12 2009
Art Bell: Somewhere in Time traveled back to May 11, 1995, during the first days of the Ebola crisis. Art and guest, Lindsey Williams, discussed the terrifying disease.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukTYiuB ... 1014254AE6

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Post by kbot » 10-16-2014 11:28 AM

I wouldn't rush to say that Art's an idiot on this. A number of hospitals and nursing organizations are saying that they're not prepared to handle this, and don't have access to the equipment the WHO, and CDC staff have. This is an issue - as is training. No one is training staff. The process is starting now, but this isn't something that can be learned overnight.

What we're finding out is that, after the fact, a patient is identified as having Ebola. Others get exposed, and these people in turn, expose other people.

If a total ban won't be considered by Obama, why not a precautionary quarantine, as used to be the case years ago?

I'm sorry, but today's (due to change any minute/ day now...) strategy seems to be more concerned with not making people feel badly, rather than mitigating the risks.
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Post by Fan » 10-16-2014 11:29 AM

kbot wrote: I wouldn't rush to say that Art's an idiot on this. A number of hospitals and nursing organizations are saying that they're not prepared to handle this, and don't have access to the equipment the WHO, and CDC staff have. This is an issue - as is training. No one is training staff. The process is starting now, but this isn't something that can be learned overnight.

What we're finding out is that, after the fact, a patient is identified as having Ebola. Others get exposed, and these people in turn, expose other people.

If a total ban won't be considered by Obama, why not a precautionary quarantine, as used to be the case years ago?

I'm sorry, but today's (due to change any minute/ day now...) strategy seems to be more concerned with not making people feel badly, rather than mitigating the risks.


Yeah why not have martial law? Close the borders. Patrol the streets. Shoot foreign looking people on sight. Makes sense for a basically non-existent problem :)
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Post by Fan » 10-16-2014 11:30 AM

Riddick wrote: FLASHBACK: Saturday, December 12 2009
Art Bell: Somewhere in Time traveled back to May 11, 1995, during the first days of the Ebola crisis. Art and guest, Lindsey Williams, discussed the terrifying disease.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukTYiuB ... 1014254AE6


Great find, going to listen. Thanks Riddick!
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Post by kbot » 10-16-2014 11:40 AM

Fan wrote: Yeah why not have martial law? Close the borders. Patrol the streets. Shoot foreign looking people on sight. Makes sense for a basically non-existent problem :)


Not exactly true. Example - ANOTHER case just reported:

LSU employee under quarantine after returning from Ebola training mission in Liberia

An LSU employee who recently returned to Baton Rouge from Liberia where he trained police there to avoid contracting Ebola will remain under a precautionary 21-day quarantine before returning to campus, according to the university.

Jason Krause, an associative director at LSU with the National Center for Biomedical Research and Training, was among a team of five from the United States on a three-week mission to train officers how to react to the spreading of the virus. He trained more than 1,200 officers about how to protect themselves and prevent spreading Ebola during their daily dealings on the job, according to WAFB, which first reported Krause's return. He did not, university spokesman Ernie Ballard said, deal with patients or in any medical setting.

"I am very confident that we helped change some behavioral patterns and educated officers on the understanding of how to interact within this environment that will potentially save their individual lives as well as maintain the stability of Liberia," Krause told the TV station.

The university asked him to remain quarantined in his home for three weeks as recommended by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control to those traveling from the affected region, Ballard said. The CDC did require LSU to quarantine Krause, but "the university wanted to err on the side of caution and adhere to the 21-day quarantine."

The U.S. State Department, which provides funding to LSU's NCBRT, contacted the center about the training mission. While Krause is a full-time LSU employee, the other four who accompanied him from NCBRT are part-time employees who live in other parts of the United States.

"This is exactly what they're trained to do," Ballard said of the NCBRT, which operates through grant funding to provide training to emergency responders for a variety of threats, including communicable diseases.

The center's mission includes safety training for food and water handling, proper procedures for wearing protective gear and dealing with crises like the spreading Ebola virus in West Africa, Ballard said.
http://www.nola.com/news/baton-rouge/in ... ntine.html

There is nothing wrong with instituting a quarantine - as LSU is doing. But, it would be nice if the federal government set the tone instead of this "we don't want to hurt any travelers feelings".

This was how the first case occurred.
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Post by kbot » 10-16-2014 11:49 AM

Of course, it helps to identify WHICH strain of Ebola is being discussed. There are two strains, and the second has a whopping 71% mortality rate........

Second Strain of Ebola Identified in The Congo: Mortality Rate at 71 Percent

The world may be facing two deadly Ebola outbreaks, now a new strain of the virus has been discovered in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), which so far has killed 71 percent of those infected.

The virus in the DRC, which is nearly 2,300 miles away from the most eastern extent of the much larger West-African outbreak has been studied by a joint French-Canadian team of virologists for the World Health Organisation who confirmed that it was distinct, sharing only 96.8 percent of genetic material: “The complete genome sequence of the virus responsible… confirms that it is a virus Ebola species but it shows that the Congolese strain is different from Africa West”.

The first cases in the new outbreak were recorded in August, and unlike the West-African disease the Centre for Disease Control records a ‘patient-zero’, a pregnant woman who slaughtered and prepared bush meat. Due to “local customs” observed after her death, several more became infected by her body and 46 have now died in the region.

Although it has a distinct origin to the West-Africa outbreak, the Congo strain is related to previous outbreaks in the Central-African country, and is “very similar” to the outbreak that ravaged the Congo and her neighbours from 1995 to 1997, reports France’s Le Monde.

Ebola is a recurring issue for the Congo, where the virus was first identified in the settlements along the banks of the river Ebola, from which it takes its name. This is the seventh local outbreak since the first in 1976, although in the past the events have typically lasted years and infected hundreds rather than thousands. It is this extraordinary speed with which new cases are spread and the high mortality rate that makes the present outbreak notable to the scientific community, who have recorded some 4,500 deaths so far.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Lond ... ola-Strain
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Post by kbot » 10-16-2014 12:02 PM

Also, with the public's expectation that healthcare providers know what they're doing regarding care of patients, it is unsettling (at a minimal level) to read and hear stories such as these. And, trust me, they are common stories.......

Nurses claim alarming lack of proper equipment and protocols to handle Ebola

An astonishing series of failures at Texas Presbyterian Hospital put staff and patients at needless risk in the days before Thomas Duncan died, a group of nurses at the Dallas hospital charged in a shocking telephone news conference Tuesday.

In the unusual group phone call, arranged by the nation’s largest nurses union, the unidentified caregivers said Duncan, the first person to die in the U.S. of Ebola, was left for hours in the emergency room with up to seven other patients before he was placed in isolation.

Among the other appalling lapses by the hospital that they listed:

- Supervisors walked walk in and out of Duncan’s isolation room without proper protective gear.

- Duncan’s lab specimens were transported through the hospital’s pneumatic tube system instead of being separately sealed and delivered, and thus “the entire tube system was potentially contaminated.”

- Caregivers donned “flimsy” hospital gowns that left their necks, heads and lower legs exposed, with head-to-toe protective gear not being supplied until Duncan’s second day in the intensive care unit.

- Some nurses who treated Duncan were “allowed to do other normal patient care duties” even though he had produced “copious amounts of diarrhea and vomiting” while they treated him.

- The hospital had never issued protocols to handle Ebola cases.

The nurses feel “unsupported, unprepared, lied to and deserted to handle their own situation,” they said in an additional statement they released Tuesday night.

“It’s a heartbreaking story that could be the story of every nurse in America,” said RoseAnn DeMoro, director of National Nurses United, the organizer of the press conference.
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DeMoro said health care workers across America are more frightened and angry than they’ve ever been.

“There’s been no education in this country to hospital staffs except to refer them to the CDC (Centers for Disease Control) website,” the union leader told the Daily News earlier in the day. “Nurses have literally been in the dark.”

In a sign of their discontent, the union has organized an unprecedented national telephone conference call for Wednesday at 3 p.m., with more than 6,400 nurses already registered to participate.

The dreaded Ebola virus has been sweeping through West Africa for seven months, with the number of sick and dead mounting in ghastly fashion, and with rich countries sending too little help, too slowly.

During all that time, health industry and federal officials assured the public the U.S. hospital system was prepared.

DeMoro and her union challenged that rosy picture.

“We’ve had a country in mass denial about a dangerous epidemic,” she said.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.1974703

The administration is painting a picture that all is well - balance this with the stories coming from the people who (unlike the government spokesmen/ spokeswomen) actually DO the job. Healthcare workers are telling a far different story......
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Post by Riddick » 10-16-2014 03:29 PM

"I am not sure we can survive the present level of stupid."
- From More Art Bell Commentary On The Ebola Crisis @ The Horror Report

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Post by Riddick » 10-16-2014 04:51 PM

What "Ebola Crisis"?
REMAIN CALM Y'ALL -
It's Just Another Vast Right-Wing Wingnut Election Year Conspiracy

While the GOP whips up fear amongst the fringe, most Americans think the U.S. can handle the disease. Full Story @ Salon

That's right folks. Stay cool. Trust us, everything's under control - Even if not, hey! There'll be plenty of time to panic AFTER the midterms....
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Post by kbot » 10-16-2014 07:25 PM

Then again, Obama's calling-up the National Guard and looking to appoint an "Ebola czar"........ Can't make up this stuff.....

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WASHINGTON —

Under pressure to select an Ebola "czar" to lead the U.S. response against the disease, President Barack Obama conceded Thursday it "may be appropriate for me to appoint an additional person" to head the administration effort.

Obama also said he is "not philosophically opposed" to a travel ban from the Ebola-afflicted region of West Africa "if that is the thing that is going to keep the American people safe." But he said experts tell him a ban would be less effective than measures currently in place.

He said his team of Ebola advisers is doing "an outstanding job." But he said several of them, including Centers for Disease Control director Thomas Frieden and Lisa Monaco, his top counterterrorism adviser, are also dealing with other priorities. He noted that Frieden is also dealing with flu season and Monac, with the Islamic State extremists in the Middle East.

"It may make sense for us to have one person ... just so that after this initial surge of activity we can have a more regular process," he said.

Calls for Obama to institute a temporary travel ban grew Thursday, mainly from Republicans who said the growing outbreak in Sierra Leone, Guinea and Liberia are creating a greater traveling threat.

But Obama said a ban could increase the instance of travelers avoiding detection.

http://www.miamiherald.com/living/healt ... 16189.html
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