'UFO Hacker' Tells What He Found

[SETIsLady]

The search for proof of the existence of UFOs landed Gary McKinnon in a world of trouble.

After allegedly hacking into NASA websites -- where he says he found images of what looked like extraterrestrial spaceships -- the 40-year-old Briton faces extradition to the United States from his North London home. If convicted, McKinnon could receive a 70-year prison term and up to $2 million in fines.

Final paperwork in the case is due this week, after which the British home secretary will rule on the extradition request.

McKinnon, whose extensive search through U.S. computer networks was allegedly conducted between February 2001 and March 2002, picked a particularly poor time to expose U.S. national security failings in light of the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

McKinnon tells what he found and discusses the motivation behind his online adventures in this exclusive phone interview with Wired News.

Wired News: What was your motive or inspiration for carrying out your computer hacking? Was it the War Games movie?

Gary McKinnon: This is a bit of a red herring. I have seen it but I wasn't inspired by it. My main inspiration was The Hacker's Handbook by Hugo Cornwall. The first edition that I read was too full of information.... It had to be banned, and it was reissued without the sensitive stuff in it.

WN: Without this book would you have been able to do it?

McKinnon: I would have done it anyway because I used the internet to get useful information. The book just kick-started me. Hacking for me was just a means to an end.

WN: In what way?

McKinnon: I knew that governments suppressed antigravity, UFO-related technologies, free energy or what they call zero-point energy. This should not be kept hidden from the public when pensioners can't pay their fuel bills.

WN: Did you find anything in your search for evidence of UFOs?

McKinnon: Certainly did. There is The Disclosure Project. This is a book with 400 testimonials from everyone from air traffic controllers to those responsible for launching nuclear missiles. Very credible witnesses. They talk about reverse-(engineered) technology taken from captured or destroyed alien craft.

WN: Like the Roswell incident of 1947?

McKinnon: I assume that was the first and assume there have been others. These relied-upon people have given solid evidence.

WN: What sort of evidence?

McKinnon: A NASA photographic expert said that there was a Building 8 at Johnson Space Center where they regularly airbrushed out images of UFOs from the high-resolution satellite imaging. I logged on to NASA and was able to access this department. They had huge, high-resolution images stored in their picture files. They had filtered and unfiltered, or processed and unprocessed, files.

My dialup 56K connection was very slow trying to download one of these picture files. As this was happening, I had remote control of their desktop, and by adjusting it to 4-bit color and low screen resolution, I was able to briefly see one of these pictures. It was a silvery, cigar-shaped object with geodesic spheres on either side. There were no visible seams or riveting. There was no reference to the size of the object and the picture was taken presumably by a satellite looking down on it. The object didn't look manmade or anything like what we have created. Because I was using a Java application, I could only get a screenshot of the picture -- it did not go into my temporary internet files. At my crowning moment, someone at NASA discovered what I was doing and I was disconnected.

I also got access to Excel spreadsheets. One was titled "Non-Terrestrial Officers." It contained names and ranks of U.S. Air Force personnel who are not registered anywhere else. It also contained information about ship-to-ship transfers, but I've never seen the names of these ships noted anywhere else.

WN: Could this have been some sort of military strategy game or outline of hypothetical situations?

McKinnon: The military want to have military dominance of space. What I found could be a game -- it's hard to know for certain.

WN: Some say that you have given the UFO motivation for your hacking as a distraction from more nefarious activities.

McKinnon: I was looking before and after 9/11. If I had wanted to distract anyone, I would not have chosen ufology, as this opens me up to ridicule.

WN: Tell me about your experiences with law enforcement and the procedures you have gone through.

McKinnon: I was arrested by the British National Hi Tech Crime Unit in March 2002. They held me in custody for about six or seven hours. My own computer and ones I was fixing for other people were taken away. The other machines were eventually returned, but they kept my hard drive that was sent to the U.S. It was November 2002 when the U.S. Department of Justice started their efforts to extradite me.

WN: The British Crown Prosecution Service dropped charges against you because your activities did not involve British computers.

McKinnon: I was to be officially charged in 2003 but a warrant wasn't given until 2004.... In June or July 2005, I was scooped from the street by Scotland Yard. I was kept at Belgravia Police Station overnight. I just wore what I had on when I was out; I didn't get a chance to wear a suit in court. I was given police bail.

WN: When will they make a decision about extradition?

McKinnon: It's down to the Home Secretary, John Reid. The deadline for representations is 21 June 2006. Even after that date, it could be as much as 11 months for him to decide on my fate.

WN: How have you been coping?

McKinnon: God, it's very worrying and stressful. It's been worse because I'm unemployed. I worked on and off in IT, contracting and stuff, before this, but no one will touch me with a large barge pole now.

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/in ... chnology_1

[Shirleypal]

McKinnon did two interviews a few weeks ago on Dreamland, one with Linda M. Howe and the other with William Henry, think it was June 6th. They are special interviews and you have to be a member to listen or download the programs. Whitely has the interview up free for 24 hours on June 6th. with Linda. Swerdloc posted the information in the Dreamland Deck at the time. Art also had him tentively scheduled but it apparently got canceled.

[Clatu]

Wow. Nice work bringing that over SETIsLady. This is the first Iv'e read of it.

Thanks:)

Clatu

[SETIsLady]

McKinnon did two interviews a few weeks ago on Dreamland, one with Linda M. Howe and the other with William Henry, think it was June 6th. They are special interviews and you have to be a member to listen or download the programs. Whitely has the interview up free for 24 hours on June 6th. with Linda. Swerdloc posted the information in the Dreamland Deck at the time. Art also had him tentively scheduled but it apparently got canceled.

I didn't know Whitley had him on, sorry I missed it. I must have missed Swerdlocs post too. I don't check Whitleys deck too often.

Wow. Nice work bringing that over SETIsLady. This is the first Iv'e read of it.

Thanks:)

Clatu

your welcome Clatu

[Shirleypal]

http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm ... nvironment

Linda has a lot of information on her website at the above link.

[SETIsLady]

kewl thanks Shirley

[Shirleypal]

You're very welcome my friend, it is pretty extensive along with kewl pictures.

[Shirleypal]

SHADOW SPACE PROGRAM

According to UFO Hacker Gary McKinnon, there is a secret group of "Non-terrestrial Officers" within the Department of Defense. I have also been told that there is a document within the files of an aero-defense contractor that refers to the existence of several secret military space stations within our solar system. The article below discusses the possibility of the saucer-shaped craft being part of a highly clandestine off-planet space program.

"Many are beginning to question if there are actually two space programmes that run parallel to each other, one, a public relations front that we know as NASA and the other a covert project intended to develop a technology that will one day take us into deep space."

http://www.thothweb.com/article3297.html

[T12]

There seems to a collaboration of information from various sources, that indicate that these events are perhaps closer to the truth than what many others are willing to accept.

I met Jo Ann Richards at the Bay Area UFO expo for example, and she also claims that her husband was involved in similar events and was jailed for exposing what he learned. Here's a copy of a post she sent to our group...

Subj: Battle of Vesta
Date: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:03 pm
From: Earth Defense Headquarters <[email protected]>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tapten/message/8355

Hello everyone,

I am happy to announce that The Battle of Vesta is now available for sale from Earth Defense Headquarters. Many of you purchased (or at least looked at) the booklet of excerpts from me at the Bay Area UFO Expo.

The 1979 story is about the UN Fleet that travels to the asteroid Vesta for what they think will be a peace conference with alien species. There is a first contact with an unknown species along the way. There is a real-life space battle in which the Fleet fights to save Earth from unspeakable horrors.

The account of the 'adventure' is written by my husband, Mark Richards, who was captain of one of the space battleships. There is much science and history background given to back up what he writes. Readers will learn about space and the difficulty of space navigation among many other topics.

Be among the first to own this never-before-told chapter of our history.

Jo Ann Richards
Earth Defense Headquarters
PO Box 2358
San Anselmo, CA 94979

415-259-0118

PS - If you'd like to become a member of EDH, the basic membership is $25. Members can take a 10% discount on all purchases.

EDH is a 501 (c)(3) nonprofit organization.

Jo Ann also made a guest appearance on Rob Simone's
Talk Radio Show on April 3rd.
http://www.robsimone.com
she talked about her books that her nonprofit organization is publishing about top secret military missions against alien threats - in space & on Earth - that her husband, Mark, was involved with.

[Hedk45e]

I had thought that it was only going to be a matter of time when a hacker or whatnot would finially get his or her eyes on the information that has been on our minds for some time. But.. You think he would have been 'silenced' for this info.. because i've been hearing about him as of late and what he's found.

[Dude111]

He is an idiot for admitting to breaking into thier computer!

MOST "UFO" SIGHTINGS NOW ARE REALLY SECRETIVE GOVT. OPERATIONS which is why they are kept so quiet!

He is lucky they didnt try to hurt him!