Julian Assange: Modern day hero, or unaccountable knave?

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Post by SquidInk » 12-06-2010 03:42 PM

Umberto Eco! He is always fantastic. This is no exception...
So why so much ado about these leaks? For one thing, they say what any savvy observer already knows: that the embassies, at least since the end of World War II, and since heads of state can call each other up or fly over to meet for dinner, have lost their diplomatic function and, but for the occasional ceremonial function, have morphed into espionage centres. Anyone who watches investigative documentaries knows that full well, and it is only out of hypocrisy that we feign ignorance. Still, repeating that in public constitutes a breach of the duty of hypocrisy, and puts American diplomacy in a lousy light.
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But let’s turn to the more profound significance of what has occurred. Formerly, back in the days of Orwell, every power could be conceived of as a Big Brother watching over its subjects’ every move. The Orwellian prophecy came completely true once the powers that be could monitor every phone call made by the citizen, every hotel he stayed in, every toll road he took and so on and so forth. The citizen became the total victim of the watchful eye of the state. But when it transpires, as it has now, that even the crypts of state secrets are not beyond the hacker’s grasp, the surveillance ceases to work only one-way and becomes circular. The state has its eye on every citizen, but every citizen, or at least every hacker – the citizens’ self-appointed avenger – can pry into the state’s every secret.

How can a power hold up if it can’t even keep its own secrets anymore? It is true, as Georg Simmel once remarked, that a real secret is an empty secret (which can never be unearthed); it is also true that anything known about Berlusconi or Merkel’s character is essentially an empty secret, a secret without a secret, because it’s public domain. But to actually reveal, as WikiLeaks has done, that Hillary Clinton’s secrets were empty secrets amounts to taking away all her power. WikiLeaks didn’t do any harm to Sarkozy or Merkel, but did irreparable damage to Clinton and Obama.
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One last observation: In days of yore, the press would try to figure out what was hatching sub rosa inside the embassies. Nowadays, it’s the embassies that are asking the press for the inside story. - source


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roga | 06.12.2010 | 14:47

"And the reaction was fierce. Rabelais was jailed for his wild comedies. Voltaire, praised for his early tragedies, was jailed for his satires. Cervantes apparently started Don Quixote in a debtors’ prison. All had to flee town on occasion for fear of worse. Printing had to be done abroad, in secret, and the books smuggled to their destinations. The early years of the novel look remarkably like a guerrilla war, as pro-Bible forces try to put down the insurgency of the novel across Europe. Both were fighting for the same piece of territory: the territory inside your head." ~Julian Gough, "Divine Comedy" The Actions of the US, Sewedish, and Australian Governments in reaction to Wikileaks leads me to believe that they are not incorrect in fearing that Julian Assange et al is as well fighting them for that most sacred territory, a place inside our heads.
Only Eco could make re-reading a series of facts I already knew (embassies are really nests of spies, these leaks have hurt Clinton/Obama, low tech solutions can be better in the long run) so interesting! I enjoy the conundrum as revelation schtick too - no secret is the secret, the best advance is a retreat, etc. Very Eco.

Edit: The Island of the Day Before, and The Name Of The Rose should be on your reading list (imho)!
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Post by Janus232 » 12-06-2010 03:48 PM

"The lives of people who work for the American people have been put at risk. The American people themselves have been put at risk by these actions that I believe are arrogant, misguided and ultimately not helpful in any way. We are doing everything that we can" US attorney general, Eric Holder


"Late this afternoon after close of business I got a call from the police who said that they had received an extradition request from Sweden......Their request is to interview Julian Assange. He's not been charged with anything......... We are in the process of making arrangements to meet with the police by consent in order to facilitate the taking of that question and answer that is needed"
Mark Stephens, Assange's Lawyer
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Post by Janus232 » 12-07-2010 05:51 AM

- Assange presented himself to a police station and was arrested at 9:30 this morning in the UK, on a Swedish warrant, and will appear at city of Westminster courts before 12:30, Australian journalist & author John Pilger will be there to support him.....

Assange's lawyer in Sweden, advises him not to come to Sweden - states he has never seen a case move so quickly in Sweden, and suspects the US has and continues to exert pressure....

Source: BBC World Service Radio

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Post by SquidInk » 12-07-2010 11:15 AM

IN 1958 a young Rupert Murdoch, then owner and editor of Adelaide's The News, wrote: "In the race between secrecy and truth, it seems inevitable that truth will always win."

His observation perhaps reflected his father Keith Murdoch's expose that Australian troops were being needlessly sacrificed by incompetent British commanders on the shores of Gallipoli. The British tried to shut him up but Keith Murdoch would not be silenced and his efforts led to the termination of the disastrous Gallipoli campaign. - source


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Post by Janus232 » 12-07-2010 11:28 AM

Assange ties to DARPA cybersecurity program hiring "hackers" Source
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Post by Riddick » 12-07-2010 02:23 PM

SquidInk wrote: The world is a strange place.
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Post by Janus232 » 12-07-2010 03:20 PM

It's really almost terrifying the power and effectiveness of the mind control techniques that operate in our society. So that most people most of the time don't even know, that they are being controlled and manipulated G Hancock

Revealed: Assange ‘rape’ accuser linked to notorious CIA operative Source

‘Hacktivists’ Hack for Wikileaks Source
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Post by Janus232 » 12-07-2010 04:52 PM

"I am here today because the charges against him in Sweden are absurd and were judged as absurd by the chief prosecutor there when she threw the whole thing out -until a senior political figure intervened.... You would have to be blind and pretty stupid, not to understand the political atmosphere that surrounds this case. And when you look into and examine the progress of this case, there are all the trappings here of a miscarriage of justice" - John Pilger

“In the face of a concerted attempt to shut him down and after a decade since 9/11 that has been characterised by manipulation of the media by the authorities, the information released by Wikileaks is a refreshing glimpse into an increasingly opaque world” - Vaughan Smith (Frontline Club)
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Post by Janus232 » 12-08-2010 06:28 PM

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Post by Janus232 » 12-10-2010 03:59 AM

Why are wars not being reported honestly? - John Pilger

After 12 days of WikiLeaks cables, the world looks on US with new eyes - Source

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Post by Janus232 » 12-12-2010 10:08 AM

WikiRebels - 50:55

Swedish Television's Jesper Huor and Bosse Lindquist exclusive rough-cut of first in-depth documentary on WikiLeaks and the people behind it! "From summer 2010 until now, SVT has been following the secretive media organization WikiLeaks and its enigmatic Editor-in-Chief Julian Assange. Reporters Jesper Huor and Bosse Lindquist have traveled to key countries where WikiLeaks operates, interviewing top members, such as Assange, new Spokesperson Kristinn Hrafnsson, as well as people like Daniel Domscheit-Berg who now is starting his own version - Openleaks.org." The documentary also includes interviews with Ian Overton from The Bureau of Investigative Journalism, James Ball of TBIJ and WikiLeaks, Icelandic MP Birgitta Jónsdóttir, former WikiLeaks collaborators Herbert Snorrason and Smári McCarthy, and PRQ CEO Mikael Viborg. The documentary looks at WikiLeaks' philosophy and operations, some of its famous disclosures including the Kenya report, the Guantanamo manuals, Kaupthing, Trafigura, the Collateral Murder video, the Afghanistan and Iraq war logs, the US administration's reactions, and the lead-up to the Cablegate release
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Post by SquidInk » 12-12-2010 11:12 AM

Thank you... will watch.
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Post by SquidInk » 12-13-2010 03:26 PM

The Conservative Case for WikiLeaks:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/12/10 ... wikileaks/
Decentralizing government power, limiting it, and challenging it was the Founders’ intent and these have always been core conservative principles. Conservatives should prefer an explosion of whistleblower groups like WikiLeaks to a federal government powerful enough to take them down. Government officials who now attack WikLleaks don’t fear national endangerment, they fear personal embarrassment. And while scores of conservatives have long promised to undermine or challenge the current monstrosity in Washington, D.C., it is now an organization not recognizably conservative that best undermines the political establishment and challenges its very foundations.
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Philip Giraldi, a former CIA Officer, is the Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest. His “Deep Background” column appears every month exclusively in The American Conservative
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Post by Janus232 » 12-14-2010 07:37 AM

End the censorship of Wikileaks - Stop the extradition of Julian Assange Source
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Post by Janus232 » 12-14-2010 08:38 AM

Problems with the Espionage Act - Benjamin Wittes

The End of America - 10 Steps To Fascism - Naomi Wolf

Secret US grand jury set up - Lawyer
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