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A storm is Coming

Post by voguy » 04-04-2016 10:19 AM

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A storm is coming
By Frederik Obermaier and Bastian Obermayer


The interrogation room in which Iceland’s recent history was rewritten is sparse, furnished only with a table, some chairs, and a computer. A camera is fixed to the wall, and the frosted, double-glazed windows have completely blocked out the sound of the gale-force winds in Reykjavik’s Faxafloi Bay.

It was in this room that some of Iceland’s most powerful bankers, executives, and investors had to answer to special investigator Olaf Hauksson. A tall man with a heavy build, Haukkson has spent the past six years investigating the transactions that brought Iceland’s economy to its knees in October 2008.

At the time, the country’s three biggest banks folded within just three days, in part because their senior executives had illegally doctored the stock listings of their own banks. “Market manipulation”, as Hauksson curtly calls it.

When asked what happened to the three bank bosses in the end, Hauksson grins. “They all went to jail,” he says, pointing to the empty chairs. “They sat right there.”

Olafur Hauksson has only just begun to wrap up proceedings for the biggest scandal in Iceland’s history. And it’s entirely possible that the publication of the Panama Papers will trigger the next one.

Another storm

The names of many Icelandic public officials show up in the internal documents of Mossack Fonseca (Mossfon), the Panamanian offshore provider. Among them are Prime Minister Sigmundur David Gunnlaugsson, Finance Minister Bjarni Benediktsson, and the Minister of the Interior, Ólöf Nordal. The data reveals that all three politicians have links to anonymous offshore companies, which they have neglected to disclose. The Panama Papers also include the names of Hrólfur Ölvisson, the chairman of the prime minister’s Progressive Party, several of Iceland’s wealthiest men, a number of former top bankers, and at least one high-level government advisor. The number of suspects is shockingly high for a country of just 330,000 inhabitants.

Iceland is in for another storm, it seems.

People flying into Reykjavík in early 2016 land in a country still healing from the last crisis. The fault lines of the financial earthquake that hit the country in the fall of 2008 ran deep. For several months, Iceland found itself at the center of the global financial crisis. At the time, three of Iceland’s largest banks – Landsbanki, Kaupthing, and Glitnir – collapsed almost simultaneously under the weight of their foreign debts.

The bank failure quickly triggered a chain reaction. Iceland’s stock market plunged by 90 percent, the Icelandic Krone lost half its value, and the country’s GNP saw a ten percent decrease. As its economy fell apart, Iceland’s reputation was also hit hard, both at home and abroad. Thousands of protesters descended on parliament and threw stones, eggs, and snowballs.

The world looked on in bewilderment at the sudden downfall of the former Scandinavian role model, long the darling of anti-corruption organizations like Transparency International. The bankers once celebrated as bold “financial vikings” in Iceland and elsewhere were to blame. They had given each other unsecured loans worth hundreds of millions in an attempt to manipulate the stock prices of their banks. To cover up the true purpose of these transactions, on paper the loans mostly went to offshore companies. As the Panama Papers now show, Mossack Fonseca set up many of them. Without these shell companies, the fraudulent dealings that inflated the bubble could probably have been immediately exposed.

In the seven years since the crisis, special prosecutor Olafur Hauksson has become a celebrity in Iceland. By 2016, 27 executives had been sentenced to prison, and Icelanders celebrated each conviction with fervor. Even former Prime Minister Geir Haarde didn’t get off scot-free: Iceland’s parliament voted to charge him with gross negligence. However, the result of ended up being more like a token gesture. It was ascertained only that Haarde had failed to sufficiently inform his cabinet of important developments during the crisis.

This backstory is important when considering the offshore companies of current Icelandic politicians. Iceland’s population is still angry about the crisis and its aftermath. For this reason, Prime Minister Sigmundur Gunnlaugsson has a lot of explaining to do.
According to Panama papers, Gunnlaugsson and his partner Anna Sigulaug Palisdottir, who were married in 2010, were registered at the end of 2007 as the shareholders of a shell company called Wintris Inc. Shortly before this the company was founded in the Virgin Islands. But for reasons that remain unclear, the registration was backdated to October 7.
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At the time, Gunnlaugsson was working as a journalist and radio host, and Pálsdóttir was (and still is) an anthropologist. Both of them come from very wealthy families.

Mossfon documents reveal that the Luxemburg branch of Landsbanki acted as an intermediary. One of the bank’s employees put in the order for Wintris Inc. with the Mossfon office in Luxemburg and requested full power of attorney for Gunnlaugsson and Pálsdóttir.


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voguy wrote:LINK TO ARTICLE

A Storm is Coming
By Frederik Obermaier and Bastian Obermayer


The interrogation room in which Iceland’s recent history was rewritten is sparse, furnished only with a table, some chairs, and a computer. A camera is fixed to the wall, and the frosted, double-glazed windows have completely blocked out the sound of the gale-force winds in Reykjavik’s Faxafloi Bay.

It was in this room that some of Iceland’s most powerful bankers, executives, and investors had to answer to special investigator Olaf Hauksson. A tall man with a heavy build, Haukkson has spent the past six years investigating the transactions that brought Iceland’s economy to its knees in October 2008.

At the time, the country’s three biggest banks folded within just three days, in part because their senior executives had illegally doctored the stock listings of their own banks. “Market manipulation”, as Hauksson curtly calls it.

When asked what happened to the three bank bosses in the end, Hauksson grins. “They all went to jail,” he says, pointing to the empty chairs. “They sat right there.”

Olafur Hauksson has only just begun to wrap up proceedings for the biggest scandal in Iceland’s history. And it’s entirely possible that the publication of the Panama Papers will trigger the next one.

Another storm

The names of many Icelandic public officials show up in the internal documents of Mossack Fonseca (Mossfon), the Panamanian offshore provider. Among them are Prime Minister Sigmundur David Gunnlaugsson, Finance Minister Bjarni Benediktsson, and the Minister of the Interior, Ólöf Nordal. The data reveals that all three politicians have links to anonymous offshore companies, which they have neglected to disclose. The Panama Papers also include the names of Hrólfur Ölvisson, the chairman of the prime minister’s Progressive Party, several of Iceland’s wealthiest men, a number of former top bankers, and at least one high-level government advisor. The number of suspects is shockingly high for a country of just 330,000 inhabitants.

Iceland is in for another storm, it seems.

People flying into Reykjavík in early 2016 land in a country still healing from the last crisis. The fault lines of the financial earthquake that hit the country in the fall of 2008 ran deep. For several months, Iceland found itself at the center of the global financial crisis. At the time, three of Iceland’s largest banks – Landsbanki, Kaupthing, and Glitnir – collapsed almost simultaneously under the weight of their foreign debts.

The bank failure quickly triggered a chain reaction. Iceland’s stock market plunged by 90 percent, the Icelandic Krone lost half its value, and the country’s GNP saw a ten percent decrease. As its economy fell apart, Iceland’s reputation was also hit hard, both at home and abroad. Thousands of protesters descended on parliament and threw stones, eggs, and snowballs.

The world looked on in bewilderment at the sudden downfall of the former Scandinavian role model, long the darling of anti-corruption organizations like Transparency International. The bankers once celebrated as bold “financial vikings” in Iceland and elsewhere were to blame. They had given each other unsecured loans worth hundreds of millions in an attempt to manipulate the stock prices of their banks. To cover up the true purpose of these transactions, on paper the loans mostly went to offshore companies. As the Panama Papers now show, Mossack Fonseca set up many of them. Without these shell companies, the fraudulent dealings that inflated the bubble could probably have been immediately exposed.

In the seven years since the crisis, special prosecutor Olafur Hauksson has become a celebrity in Iceland. By 2016, 27 executives had been sentenced to prison, and Icelanders celebrated each conviction with fervor. Even former Prime Minister Geir Haarde didn’t get off scot-free: Iceland’s parliament voted to charge him with gross negligence. However, the result of ended up being more like a token gesture. It was ascertained only that Haarde had failed to sufficiently inform his cabinet of important developments during the crisis.

This backstory is important when considering the offshore companies of current Icelandic politicians. Iceland’s population is still angry about the crisis and its aftermath. For this reason, Prime Minister Sigmundur Gunnlaugsson has a lot of explaining to do.
According to Panama papers, Gunnlaugsson and his partner Anna Sigulaug Palisdottir, who were married in 2010, were registered at the end of 2007 as the shareholders of a shell company called Wintris Inc. Shortly before this the company was founded in the Virgin Islands. But for reasons that remain unclear, the registration was backdated to October 7.
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At the time, Gunnlaugsson was working as a journalist and radio host, and Pálsdóttir was (and still is) an anthropologist. Both of them come from very wealthy families.

Mossfon documents reveal that the Luxemburg branch of Landsbanki acted as an intermediary. One of the bank’s employees put in the order for Wintris Inc. with the Mossfon office in Luxemburg and requested full power of attorney for Gunnlaugsson and Pálsdóttir.


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Post by voguy » 04-04-2016 10:28 AM

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Post by Doka » 04-04-2016 11:07 AM

A lot of corruption is bubbling up to the surface, hopefully we have a few good men and women to take care of it. I am impressed with the valiant journalists who take it on. Makes most of those on our TV news people look like the "slime" they really are, but one thing I can not do is blame them, they have been taught that way. What interesting times we live in!
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Post by kbot » 04-04-2016 11:52 AM

Nice...........

And, so, I really do have to ask this again - does anyone really, honestly expect that any of the GOP candidates or Hillary will be either knowledgeable of, or, inclined, to make any meaningful changes with those institutions that are either complicit in these activities, or, employee personnel that have engaged in these activities? Don't bother thinking about it, because the answer is "No."

Iceland aside, for a moment, as disastrous as this news appears to be, what indications are there that we here in the US either do (or do not) have the same issues? If history is any indicator, we do.

So, going back to the question which was posed by Sanders: "Of all the execs and others at Goldman Sacks (and other institutions) that contributed to the near collapse of the financial system on the early 2000s, who actually went to jail?". The fact is, there is no one either in office now, or running for office (except Sanders and Warren), who has called for any sort of punishment such as jail time.

This is a no-brainer (one would think). But, when your campaigns DEPEND on getting financing from untraceable PACS which hide contributions from financial institutions, chances are, you're not going to make waves.

We are so screwed........
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kbot wrote:Nice...........

And, so, I really do have to ask this again - does anyone really, honestly expect that any of the GOP candidates or Hillary will be either knowledgeable of, or, inclined, to make any meaningful changes with those institutions that are either complicit in these activities, or, employee personnel that have engaged in these activities? Don't bother thinking about it, because the answer is "No."

Iceland aside, for a moment, as disastrous as this news appears to be, what indications are there that we here in the US either do (or do not) have the same issues? If history is any indicator, we do.

So, going back to the question which was posed by Sanders: "Of all the execs and others at Goldman Sacks (and other institutions) that contributed to the near collapse of the financial system on the early 2000s, who actually went to jail?". The fact is, there is no one either in office now, or running for office (except Sanders and Warren), who has called for any sort of punishment such as jail time.

This is a no-brainer (one would think). But, when your campaigns DEPEND on getting financing from untraceable PACS which hide contributions from financial institutions, chances are, you're not going to make waves.

We are so screwed........


Oh ye of little faith! I do think a difference can be made IF we the people allow them to do so , not the dems, repubs, or the socialists , not any of the Establishment, but something different. The old is no longer working, well, for you maybe. We are going into a New Age, we need some new ways of doing things! I'm not saying that we guit those things that did work. We have robots comeing into jobs, we are going to experiencd new energy programs, we are going into space. Things will change , with or with or without our consent. Tell me, Kbot ,where did you learn thd most about your job? In school or on the job?

Yes,yes yes. Let's do something different! Or are we so inlove with our abusers, that we are no longer capable of doing so.? Remember we, Americans, have not faced centuries of different kings and abuse, we have experienced almost 300 years of the "potential" in all of us. Are you afraid of success? Ba Humbug back at ya! If punishment is all you want, go for it. My main dream is for all people, all color, what ever sex , religion, to have opportunties if they so choose. Remember it is so much harder to bring people UP, than it is to drag them down. Down is easy , look where we are! Not only with our permission, but people actually voted for it! HUMAN NATURE, tends to be a bit suicidal.
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Post by voguy » 04-04-2016 02:43 PM

According to a paper from Warsaw (Poland), more and more people are getting outraged by the uber-wealthy, and at some point they won't be able to hide. Technology is such that the gap between a coherent group of citizens and those who seek to prey off society is closing in fast. It cites a report by an ex-Russian general, (now living in Latvia), which details the ratio between a protection society (rich), and an armed fed up society (poor) which says in less than 5 years citizen groups could be on par with military and protection societies. One sentence was chilling and that was Putin was in the crosshairs, followed by other "leaders".
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Doka wrote:Remember we, Americans, have not faced centuries of different kings and abuse, we have experienced almost 300 years of the "potential" in all of us. Are you afraid of success? Ba Humbug back at ya! If punishment is all you want, go for it. My main dream is for all people, all color, what ever sex , religion, to have opportunties if they so choose. Remember it is so much harder to bring people UP, than it is to drag them down. Down is easy , look where we are! Not only with our permission, but people actually voted for it! HUMAN NATURE, tends to be a bit suicidal.
I think there are some of us which will fair just fine in a post apocalyptic North America based on the overthrow of elites and a government ran like a group of mad kings.

I see this happening in my lifetime.
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Post by Doka » 04-04-2016 03:38 PM

Voguy said:


I think there are some of us which will fair just fine in a post apocalyptic North America based on the overthrow of elites and a government ran like a group of mad kings.

I see this happening in my lifetime.



Do I understand you to say, Post, after the fall, then something might be done? The fight would be on? You would rather fight over "ashes". And not just vote them out?

"Rather fight than switch?" :roll:

That makes a lot of sense, to someone, I'm sure, just not to me.


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Doka wrote:
Oh ye of little faith! I do think a difference can be made IF we the people allow them to do so , not the dems, repubs, or the socialists , not any of the Establishment, but something different. The old is no longer working, well, for you maybe..

I hear ya......... But, isn't THIS the same message that Sanders has been delivering? To have accountability with teeth in it? Obama has been in charge of the WH since the economic debacle under 43 - and nothing was done. With the exception of Trump, everyone else running was ni government and could have sponsored legislation, OR, called for existing rules to be used. No one did.

So, yes, I do have little faith, because, with the exception of Senator Warren, no one else on the national stage has been calling for Wall St to be reined-in. Sanders got on the bandwagon later, but no one else has been calling for any jail time. Certainly no one else running for president is. And, why would they? The GOP is against it on principle. And Hillary has a list of Wall St donors so long as to make the notion of her doing something laughable.

So, yes, as Bernie says, get a revolution on. SOMETHING Has to be done other than depending on our government...... Maybe it's me, but I cannot seriously entertain the possibility of any meaningful change originating with our government. They've had about ten years to do SOMETHING and have shown themselves to be either totally incompetent, or uncaring, or both. Anyone who thinks that our government will save us in this is delusional........
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voguy wrote:
Doka wrote:Remember we, Americans, have not faced centuries of different kings and abuse, we have experienced almost 300 years of the "potential" in all of us. Are you afraid of success? Ba Humbug back at ya! If punishment is all you want, go for it. My main dream is for all people, all color, what ever sex , religion, to have opportunties if they so choose. Remember it is so much harder to bring people UP, than it is to drag them down. Down is easy , look where we are! Not only with our permission, but people actually voted for it! HUMAN NATURE, tends to be a bit suicidal.
I think there are some of us which will fair just fine in a post apocalyptic North America based on the overthrow of elites and a government ran like a group of mad kings.

I see this happening in my lifetime.
I see some bad times coming - not sure how it will all play out, but I can see it not being pretty.........
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Re: A storm is Coming

Post by Doka » 04-06-2016 09:09 AM

Rothschild Humiliates Obama, Reveals That "America Is The Biggest Tax Haven In The World"

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There is one major problem with that: of all the countries in the world, it is none other than the country of which Obama is president, the United States, that has become the world's favorite offshore "tax haven" destination.

Very good article:http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-0 ... ax-evasion

Obama is truely a master at living in a glass house and get away with throwing rocks and not get a scratch. But who would question a king? Speaking of Kings, he is off to kiss the Saudi King again.
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Re: A storm is Coming

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Doka wrote: Speaking of Kings, he is off to kiss the Saudi King again.
But will he bow again?????
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Post by Doka » 04-06-2016 12:17 PM

Only after the kiss. :twisted:

Never mind that Saudi is stoning, women, killing gays, and beheading, they are are best friends.
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Post by kbot » 04-06-2016 03:20 PM

Oh, the Saudis........ never mind that the 9-11 terrorists came from, and were funded by Saudi. Never mind that their schools teach the very mindset you speak about regarding the treatment of women and how we in the West are still "the Infidels....". Obama and "his legacy" have to go........
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