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Post by voguy » 07-22-2016 04:08 PM

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CIA Pilot Presents Evidence That No Planes Hit Towers On 9/11

Ex-CIA and commercial jet pilot John Lear claims that the Twin Towers were not bought to the ground by planes crashing into them on 9/11, and now detailed information has been posted online corroborating his account.

In Lear’s expert opinion the official claim that two planes crashed into the towers is actually “physically impossible.”

With reports from the Kremlin that President Putin will release satellite images proving that the Twin Towers were destroyed by “controlled demolition” rather than by the force of two planes, enormous strides towards disproving the official 9/11 Commission version are taking place.

The grandson of Learjet founder Bill Lear, John Lear is a retired airline captain and former CIA pilot who has flown over 100 different types of plane during 40 years of active flying. He holds more FAA airman certificates than any other FAA certified pilot, and has flown secret CIA missions in Asia, Africa, Eastern Europe and the Middle East.

Basically, you don’t want to argue with John Lear about flying and planes. He is as close as you can come to being American intelligence and aerospace aristocracy.

9/11 Plane Hoax proves his theories:
THE PROOF THAT NO REAL PLANES WERE USED ON 9/11


We are supposed to believe that both planes were entirely inside the towers, with no pieces showing. A Boeing 767 is 156 feet wide and 159 feet long. The distance from: the outer perimeter of the North Tower at the alleged point of contact by AA Flight 11, to: the central 47 massive inner core beams that are cross-braced is 60 feet. The distance from: the outer surface of the South Tower at the alleged point of contact by UA Flight 175, to: the core structure of that building was 37 feet. The differential in length in relation to the North Tower with respect to plane length and a building length that is measured in terms of the distance to the core structure is about 99 feet. The differential length for the South Tower is approximately 122 feet. A 767 is 159 feet long so most of the plane has got to be outside of the tower in both cases since there is simply no room for the entire length of the plane to crumple into. Why didn’t we see 99 feet of AA Flight 11 sticking out of the North Tower or broken off, crumpled up, and/or crumbling to the ground below? Why didn’t we see 122 feet of UA Flight 175 sticking out of the South Tower or crumpled up, and/or crumbling to the WTC plaza below?

There is no plane or plane wreckage at all to be seen in the hole of either tower in any video or photos.



Of course, there are no planes to be seen in the holes of either tower or on the street below because there were no real planes.

We would expect a sharp deceleration as the plane crumpled to fit into the 60 feet of space (North Tower, Flight 11) and 35 feet of space (South Tower, Flight 175) from the perimeter to the central steel core. Instead, in the videos, both planes enter the towers entirely at uniform motion.

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A Boeing 767 is 156 feet wide. The width of the hole in the South Tower was 106 feet wide and the width of the hole in the North Tower was 125 feet wide. 50 feet of the Boeing 767 that allegedly struck the South Tower cannot fit into the size of the hole that is in the North Tower…a hole that was supposedly created by a Boeing 767 with a wingspan of 156 feet. 31 feet of the Boeing 767 that is said to have hit the North Tower cannot fit into the size of the hole that is in the North Tower…a hole that was supposedly created by a Boeing 767 with a wingspan of 156 feet. Some people may say that the wings of the Boeings merely folded back as the aluminum portion of the wings came in contact with the exterior steel columns. However we can see this is not what happens in the videos. Even so the aluminum wings would not neatly fold back they would be torn off.

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Isaac Newton’s Third Law of Motion: “For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.” High school physics states that the force an airplane exerts on a building is the same as the force a building exerts on an airplane. Let’s apply Newton’s Third Law to Flight 175. In the 9/11 story, Flight 175 strikes the South Tower at 450 m.p.h. Now imagine that the South Tower moved at 450 m.p.h. and struck a stationary Flight 175. We would not expect that Flight 175 would be undamaged. We would not expect that it would simply disappear into the South Tower. Any video that shows an aluminum airplane with a fiberglass nose cone gliding through a steel and concrete building violates Newton’s Laws of Motion.

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The above diagram shows that Flight 175 was intersecting with eight (8) floors that consisted of steel trusses connected at one end to the core columns and to the external support columns at the other, where each floor was covered with 4-8” of concrete, representing an acre of concrete apiece and posing enormous horizontal resistance to any airplane’s penetration into the building.

In the impact videos, notably the Hezarkhani, Luc Courchesne, Spiegel TV and Evan Fairbanks videos we see what we are told is a plane cartoonishly pass through the steel face of the tower like a ghost. As the alleged plane makes contact with the tower there is no bending, buckling or breaking of the plane. No wings breaking or other parts of the plane breaking apart. This is impossible. It is cartoon physics. It melts into the side of the tower like a knife through butter. A passenger jet is a hollow aluminum and plastic tube which is highly vulnerable to impacts with flying birds. The “plane” we are told is Flight 175 is depicted as being simultaneously both half in the South Tower and still completely intact, a pair of buildings made with 200,000 tons of steel each. When the tip of the plane’s fuselage hits the steel exterior of the South Tower the fuselage should be breaking up. That would cause the wings to break off.

From the holes left in both towers after “impact” we are supposed to believe the wings sliced clean through the 14 inch steel beams but this is simply impossible. The fragile mostly hollow aluminum wings would not slice through all the 14 inch steel box columns of the WTC towers and leave a Wylie Coyote style hole. An airplane wing can be sliced in half by a wooden telephone pole:



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Re: No Planes

Post by voguy » 07-22-2016 04:11 PM

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Ex-CIA Pilot Gives Sworn Testimony That No Planes Hit The Twin Towers
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A former CIA and civilian airline captain with over 19,000 hours of flight time has given sworn testimony stating that no planes flew into the Twin Towers as it would have been “physically impossible”. As expected, the statement has gone viral.

John Lear, the son of the Learjet inventor, Bill Lear, has given an explosive interview with Project Camelot which goes into all the detail about why it would have been literally physically impossible for Boeing 767s, like the alleged Flights AA11 and UA175 to have hit the Twin Towers on 9/11, especially since these were amateur pilots.

While this may sound absolutely crazy to the less informed, we have to remind ourselves that John is a seasoned pilot who was born into his profession. Dismissing his evidence based on our narrow minded ignorance would be stupid. What does the average person really know about planes anyways? Not much, so it’s important to listen to what he has to say;
“No Boeing 767 airliners hit the Twin Towers as fraudulently alleged by the government, media, NIST and its contractors… Such crashes did not occur because they are physically impossible as depicted, for the following reasons: in the case of UAL 175 going into the south tower, a real Boeing 767 would have begun ‘telescoping’ when the nose hit the 14 inch steel columns which are 39 inches on center… The vertical and horizontal tail would have instantaneously separated from the aircraft, hit the steel box columns and fallen to the ground. The engines when impacting the steel columns would have maintained their general shape and either fallen to the ground or been recovered in the debris of the collapsed building.”
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“No Boeing 767 could attain a speed of 540 mph at 1000 feet above sea level ‘parasite drag doubles with velocity’ and ‘parasite power’ cubes with velocity. The fan portion of the engine is not designed to accept the volume of dense air at that altitude and speed.The piece of alleged external fuselage containing 3 or 4 window cutouts is inconsistent with an airplane that hit 14 inch steel box columns, placed at over 500 mph. It would have crumpled. No significant part of the Boeing 767 or engine could have penetrated the 14 inch steel columns and 37 feet beyond the massive core of the tower without part of it falling to the ground. The debris of the collapse should have contained massive sections of the Boeing 767, including 3 engine cores weighing approximately 9000 pounds apiece which could not have been hidden. Yet there is no evidence of any of these massive structural components from either 767 at the WTC. Such complete disappearance of 767s is impossible.”
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Re: No Planes

Post by Doka » 07-22-2016 05:03 PM

Hate to say this, but this has been out since about 2009 or before. John Lear got his information from Dr. Judy Wood. If you carefully go through her web-site, you may be amazed. What I found very interesting was the fact was the metal was turned to "dust" in the strike area. But if you look at photos you will see un-burned paper every where. :huhsmile:

http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/about/

http://drjudywood.com/


I really don't think most get what the implications of what this study reveals.
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Re: No Planes

Post by fos » 07-22-2016 05:18 PM

I guess all of the live TV coverage that I saw on that morning was part of the conspiracy?

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Re: No Planes

Post by Doka » 07-22-2016 05:30 PM

fos wrote:I guess all of the live TV coverage that I saw on that morning was part of the conspiracy?
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No Doubt, We all SAW planes. The conspiracy is in what we Did Not see.
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Re: No Planes

Post by voguy » 07-22-2016 06:00 PM

You guys realize you're ruining the resurgence for John. You should be ashamed. ;)
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Re: No Planes

Post by Doka » 07-23-2016 01:39 AM

voguy wrote:You guys realize you're ruining the resurgence for John. You should be ashamed. ;)

Not sure there will be a "Resurgence" of John, any time soon, in the mainstream any way. He is one of those guys that has a lot to say, to those who want to listen. He has definite ideas that you either take or leave. He is the one that was /is that heavily promoted Dr.Woods well researched findings on 911 . I think the implications of what she did find is hard to swallow for a lot of people . Black Ops and the company they keep is volatile , to say the least. For many it goes too far into the weeds.

John is still with us, but having a lot of health issues.
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Re: No Planes

Post by voguy » 07-23-2016 08:22 AM

For some reason this story is making its way around social media with some fanfare, mostly from people who have not seen it before. I have to say that it's interesting to see something which you saw before being shared as if it were new. It reminds me of high school kids these day that talk about some great new music groups called "The Beatles" and "Led Zeppelin".

Anyways, that's why it was posted. It was trending high yesterday on various boards since new people just found it.
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Re: No Planes

Post by Doka » 07-23-2016 12:10 PM

voguy wrote:For some reason this story is making its way around social media with some fanfare, mostly from people who have not seen it before. I have to say that it's interesting to see something which you saw before being shared as if it were new. It reminds me of high school kids these day that talk about some great new music groups called "The Beatles" and "Led Zeppelin".

Anyways, that's why it was posted. It was trending high yesterday on various boards since new people just found it.

That is good to hear, I think it deserves a lot more discussion , a lot more! :coolhat:
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Post by Malaria_Kidd II » 08-07-2016 05:29 AM

9/11 Plane Hoax proves his theories:
THE PROOF THAT NO REAL PLANES WERE USED ON 9/11

voguy, Your posts are linked here on page 3. John Lear's claim alone is chilling in itself and now I'm just raising the chill factor a few degrees! :shock: Since Linnea's forum is fantastic that is what these posts are all about.

Go to page 2 and scroll down 13 posts to my quote of joequinn's post from 2002. :| :idea:

http://fantasticforum.com/1res/viewtopi ... 0&start=15

Maybe the two planes were holograms! One of which I saw live on TV carrying another radical Islamic terrorist pilot's face into the WTC's window panes at over 600 mph! :evil:

vo, after seeing The Beatles and Led Zeppelin you've noted above I thought I'd add one line from Pink Floyd from 1986.

"And still this ceaseless murmuring" is found inside the lyrics of Pink Floyd's 'Yet Another Movie' :shock:

You wrote: "In Lear’s expert opinion the official claim that two planes crashed into the towers is actually “physically impossible.”

Then I'll add, "What did I see that morning live on TV?

"With reports from the Kremlin that President Putin will release satellite images proving that the Twin Towers were destroyed by “controlled demolition” rather than by the force of two planes, enormous strides towards disproving the official 9/11 Commission version are taking place."

:( After nearly 15 years I don't remember reading the Kremlin's report and viewing Putin's released Twin Tower's satellite images. :idea:

The conspiracy theories on 9/11, JFK, Lincoln, Princess Diana, and each, now more frequent, new, large radical Islamist terror attacks are endless! The Boston Marathon is another one that the tinfoil hats were seen flying through the air on You Tube. Some warrant much thought and some are shameful, brainless efforts to see or read. We may watch their videos knowing they are fellow American citizens with too much time on one hand while holding their brains in their other hand! :P :realmad:


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