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Post by Divinorumus » 07-29-2007 10:35 PM

Next on the agenda, Romola Nijinsky's biography of her husband Vaslav, probably the greatest male dancer of the 20th century...
Wow, isn't diversity utterly amazing and ever so interesting . . . . and perplexing . . . That would be like the last kind of book I'd ever get around to ever reading, if I ever lived so long . . . and I'd probably kill myself first. Male dancer? Okay, whatever. ;)

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Post by Sam.I'm.Not » 07-29-2007 10:36 PM

Thank you Joe It was just the translation that was around my wife had it from one of her collage classes. What translation would you suggest? I was thinking about getting an annotated version any way.

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Post by Shirleypal » 07-29-2007 10:44 PM

Divinorumus wrote: Wow, isn't diversity utterly amazing and ever so interesting . . . . and perplexing . . . That would be like the last kind of book I'd ever get around to ever reading, if I ever lived so long . . . and I'd probably kill myself first. Male dancer? Okay, whatever. ;)

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Post by joequinn » 07-29-2007 10:50 PM

I prefer Edith Hamilton or Benjamin Jowett's translations of Plato to anything else. You might as well read Bloom's translation, but do not trust it.

Leo Strauss, that depraved piece of filth who reached out of the grave to murder Iraqi women and children, actually claimed that Thrasymachus, the belligerent Sophist, and not Socrates, was the real hero of The Republic. And degenerate scum like Paul Wolfowitz believed such arrant nonsense and felt that he, being one of "the masters of the universe" who could understand the "real" Plato, had the right to slaughter anybody who disagreed with his "esoteric" understanding. And Allen Bloom, who fed him this poison, was Wolfowitz's teacher at Cornell!

Part of the necessary, and inevitable, deBushification of this country has to be the philosophical and historical annihilation of those academic monsters in Chicago who did so much to destroy this country and to enslave its people! (And hey, if Saul Bellow's reputation sinks with it, well that's just how the cookie crumbles!) Oh, what these monsters of depravity did to my Plato, my Nietzsche, and my Heidegger! Hitler did not tarnish their reputations half so much! I hate these evil scholars forever for it! Forever! Thank God the karmic retribution is coming! And it is coming, Sam, believe me, it is coming!
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Post by Shimmering Auro » 07-29-2007 11:00 PM

Currently reading the last Harry Potter book. Taking my time with the book, absorbing every word along the way.

Also reading The Works of Jane Austen, The Life of Elizabeth I, by Alison Weir, and when time allows, Silent In The Grave, by Deanna Raybourn - a personal friend and up and coming novelist.
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Post by Shimmering Auro » 07-30-2007 02:59 AM

Deanna Raybourn's site:

http://www.silentinthegrave.com/

About the book:


http://www.silentinthegrave.com/aboutbook.html

Excerpt:

To say that I met Nicholas Brisbane over my husband?s dead body is not entirely accurate. Edward, it should be noted, was still twitching upon the floor.

I stared at him, not quite taking in the fact that he had just collapsed at my feet. He lay, curled like a question mark, his evening suit ink-black against the white marble of the floor. He was writhing, his fingers knotted.

I leaned as close to him as my corset would permit.

?Edward, we have guests. Do get up. If this is some sort of silly prank??

?He is not jesting, my lady. He is convulsing.?

An impatient figure in black pushed past me to kneel at Edward?s side. He busied himself for a few brisk moments, palpating and pulse-taking, while I bobbed a bit, trying to see over his shoulder. Behind me the guests were murmuring, buzzing, pushing closer to get a look of their own. There was a little thrill of excitement in the air. After all, it was not every evening that a baronet collapsed senseless in his own music room. And Edward was proving rather better entertainment than the soprano we had engaged.

Through the press, Aquinas, our butler, managed to squeeze in next to my elbow.

?My lady??

I looked at him, grateful to have an excuse to turn away from the spectacle on the floor.

?Aquinas, Sir Edward has had an attack.?

?And would be better served in his own bed,? said the gentleman from the floor. He rose, lifting Edward into his arms with a good deal of care and very little effort, it seemed. But Edward had grown thin in the past months. I doubted he weighed much more than I.

?Follow me,? I instructed, although Aquinas actually led the way out of the music room. People moved slowly out of our path, as though they regretted the little drama ending so quickly. There were some polite murmurs, some mournful clucking. I heard snatches as I passed through them.

?The curse of the Greys, it is??

?So young. But of course his father never saw thirty-five.?

?Never make old bones??

?Feeble heart. Pity, he was always such a pleasant fellow.?

I moved faster, staring straight ahead so that I did not have to meet their eyes. I kept my gaze fixed on Aquinas? broad, black-wool back, but all the time I was conscious of those voices and the sound of footsteps behind me, the footsteps of the gentleman who was carrying my husband. Edward groaned softly as we reached the stairs and I turned. The gentleman?s face was grim.

?Aquinas, help the gentleman??

?I have him,? he interrupted, brushing past me. Aquinas obediently led him to Edward?s bedchamber. Together they settled Edward onto the bed, and the gentleman began to loosen his clothes. He flicked a glance toward Aquinas.

?Has he a doctor??

?Yes, sir. Doctor Griggs, Golden Square.?

?Send for him. Although I dare say it will be too late.?

Aquinas turned to me where I stood, hovering on the threshold. I never went into Edward?s room. I did not like to do so now. It felt like an intrusion, a trespass on his privacy.

?Shall I send for Lord March as well, my lady??

I blinked at Aquinas. ?Why should Father come? He is no doctor.?

But Aquinas was quicker than I. I had thought the gentleman meant that Edward would have recovered from his attack by the time Doctor Griggs arrived. Aquinas, who had seen more of the world than I, knew better.
He looked at me, his eyes carefully correct, and then I understood why he wanted to send for Father. As head of the family he would have certain responsibilities.

I nodded slowly. ?Yes, send for him.? I moved into the room on reluctant legs. I knew I should be there, doing whatever little bit that I could for Edward. But I stopped at the side of the bed. I did not touch him.

?And Lord Belmont?? Aquinas queried.

I thought for a moment. ?No, it is Friday. Parliament is sitting late.?

That much was a mercy. Father I could cope with. But not my eldest brother as well. ?And I suppose you ought to call for the carriages. Send everyone home. Make my apologies.?

He left us alone then, the stranger and I. We stood on opposite sides of the bed, Edward convulsing between us. He stopped after a moment and the gentleman placed a finger at his throat.

?His pulse is very weak,? he said finally. ?You should prepare yourself.?

I did not look at him. I kept my eyes fixed on Edward?s pale face. It shone with sweat, its surface etched with lines of pain. This was not how I wanted to remember him.

?I have known him for more than twenty years,? I said finally, my voice tight and strange. ?We were children together. We used to play pirates and knights of the Round Table. Even then, I knew his heart was not sound. He used to go quite blue sometimes when he was overtired. This is not unexpected.?

I looked up then to find the stranger?s eyes on me. They were the darkest eyes I had ever seen, witch-black and watchful. His gaze was not friendly. He was regarding me coldly, as a merchant will appraise a piece of goods to determine its worth. I dropped my eyes at once.

?Thank you for your concern for my husband?s health, sir. You have been most helpful. Are you a friend of Edward?s??

He did not reply at once. Edward made a noise in the back of his throat and the stranger moved swiftly, rolling him onto his side and thrusting a basin beneath his mouth. Edward retched, horribly, groaning. When he finished, the gentleman put the basin to the side and wiped his mouth with his handkerchief. Edward gave a little whimper and began to shiver. The gentleman watched him closely.

?Not a friend, no. A business associate,? he said finally. ?My name is Nicholas Brisbane.?

?I am??

?I know who you are, my lady.?

Startled at his rudeness, I looked up, only to find those eyes again, fixed on me with naked hostility. I opened my mouth to reproach him, but Aquinas appeared then. I turned to him, relieved.

?Aquinas??

?The carriages are being brought round now, my lady. I have sent Henry for Doctor Griggs and Desmond for his lordship. Lady Otterbourne and Mr. Phillips both asked me to convey their concern and their willingness to help should you have need of them.?

?Lady Otterbourne is a meddlesome old gossip and Mr. Phillips would be no use whatsoever. Send them home.?

I was conscious of Mr. Brisbane behind me, listening to every word. I did not care. For some unaccountable reason, the man thought ill of me already. I did not mind if he thought worse.

Aquinas left again, but I did not resume my post by the bed. I took a chair next to the door and remained there, saying nothing and wondering what was going to happen to all of the food. We had ordered far too much in any event. Edward never liked to run short. I could always tell Cook to serve it in the servants? hall, but after a few days even the staff would tire of it. Before I could decide what to do with the lobster patties and salad molds, Aquinas entered again, leading Doctor Griggs. The elderly man was perspiring freely, patting his ruddy face with a handkerchief and gasping. He had taken the stairs too quickly. I rose and he took my hand.

?I was afraid of this,? he murmured. ?The curse of the Greys, it is. All snatched before their time. My poor girl.? I smiled feebly at him. Doctor Griggs had attended my mother at my birth, as well as her nine other confinements. We had known each other too long to stand on ceremony. He patted my hand and moved to the bed. He felt for Edward?s pulse, shaking his head as he did so. Edward vomited again, and Doctor Griggs watched him carefully, examining the contents of the basin. I turned away.

I tried not to hear the sounds coming from the bed, the groans and the rattling breaths. I would have stopped my ears with my hands, but I knew it would look childish and cowardly. Griggs continued his examination, but before he finished Aquinas stepped into the room.

?Lord March, my lady.? He moved aside and Father entered.

?Julia,? he said, opening his arms. I went into them, burying my face against his waistcoat. He smelled of tobacco and book leather. He kept one arm tucked firmly around me as he looked over my head.

?Griggs, you damned fool. Julia should have been sent away.?

The doctor made some reply, but I did not hear it. My father was pushing me gently out the door. I tried to look past him, to see what they were doing to Edward, but Father moved his body and prevented me. He gave me a sad, gentle smile. Anyone else might have mistaken that smile, but I did not. I knew he expected obedience. I nodded.

?I shall wait in my room.?

?That would be best. I will come when there is something to tell.?

My maid, Morag, was waiting for me. She helped me out of my silk gown and into something more suitable. She offered me warm milk or brandy, but I knew I would never be able to hold anything down. I only wanted to sit, watching the clock on the mantel as it ticked away the minutes left.

Morag continued to fuss, poking at the fire and muttering complaints about the work to come. She was right about that. There would be much work for her when I put on widow?s weeds. It was unlucky to keep crepe in the house, I reminded myself. It would have to be sent for after Edward passed. I thought about such things?crepe for the mirrors, black plumes for the horses?because then I did not have to think about what was happening in Edward?s room. It was rather like waiting for a birth, these long, tense minutes of sitting, straining one?s ears on tiptoe for the slightest sound. I expected to hear something, but the walls were thick and I heard nothing. Even when the clock struck midnight, the little voice on my mantel chiming twelve times, I could not hear the tall case clock in the hall. I started to mention the peculiarity of it to Morag, because one could always hear the case clock from any room in the house, when I realized what it meant.

?Morag, the clocks have stopped.?

She looked at me, her lips parted to speak, but she said nothing. Instead she bowed her head and began to pray. A moment later, the door opened. It was Father. He said nothing. I went to him and his hand cradled my head like a benediction. He held me for a very long time, as he had not done since I was a child.

?It is all right, my dear,? he said finally, sounding older and more tired than I had ever heard him. ?It is over.?

But of course, he was entirely wrong. It was only the beginning.
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Post by majda » 07-30-2007 03:43 AM

Shirleypal wrote: Div if you don't have anything but negative comments to contribute to this thread maybe you should move on to another thread.


'twas only an opinion Shirley... :)
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Post by Psychicwolf » 07-30-2007 03:44 AM

Currently reading "The Thief of Time" by John Boyne.
Novel with a theme of: what is immortality worth without love.

Finished my "junk food for the mind" summer read of the "Diana Chronicles" by Tina Brown.
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Post by SquidInk » 07-30-2007 07:32 PM

Vagrancy by Philip O'Connor

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Post by Joolz » 07-30-2007 07:55 PM

majda wrote: 'twas only an opinion Shirley... :)
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True, majda, but this thread didn't ask us for our opinions regarding other members' taste in reading matter, but to talk about what book(s) we are each currently reading, and review them when we're finished with them.
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Returning this thread to its previously scheduled topic. :)
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The Diana Chronicles

Post by HurricaneJoanie » 07-30-2007 09:55 PM

Surprisingly well written.
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Post by DeathValleyScotty » 07-31-2007 01:22 AM

2150 A.D. - Thea Alexander

Last night I awakened in another time – in another place – in another body!

I was lying in the middle of a small grassy clearing beneath a sky of azure blue. My bare body tingled. What beautiful freedom! I jumped to my feet and ran on and on with no sense of tiring. Tears of joy had blurred my vision as I realized that I had both my legs again. The leg I had lost four years ago in Vietnam was mine again. I was whole, perfect, unscarred. Was I dreaming?

I ran along a path and suddenly before me stood a radiantly real woman. "I’ve waited a long time for you, Jon Lake", she said. "I’m Lea." In answer to my unspoken thoughts, she explained, "There are two Jon Lakes. One of them is asleep in 1976 time; the other is standing here with me, in what you would think of as 2150 A.D., occupying the body you’re so pleased with – your astral or soul body. It houses the unique electronic essence that is you."

"May I stay here or must I go back to my old crippled body?"

You must always awaken in 1976 unless you free yourself by attaining a high level of Macro awareness – an awareness of the oneness of all that is, all that was and all that will ever be…"

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Post by Janus232 » 07-31-2007 07:49 AM

Hans Alfven - Worlds-Antiworlds (Freeman 1966)
"Alfven was the first to predict (in 1963) the large scale filamentary structure of the universe, a discovery that confounded astrophysicists in 1991 and added to the woes of Big Bang cosmology. Hannes Alfven has played a central role in the development of several modern fields of physics, including plasma physics, the physics of charged particle beams, and interplanetary and magnetospheric physics. He is also usually regarded as the father of the branch of plasma physics known as magnetohydrodynamics"

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Post by SquidInk » 07-31-2007 04:48 PM

Sam.I'm.Not wrote: The Republic of Plato

Translated with notes and an interpretive Essay, By Allan Bloom.

Did not get to this one well in collage it was next on the list.

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The Allegory of the cave was, for me, a formative dialogue. I still read it. It's the perfect description of the way things are, and apparently always have been

However, in my opinion, Diogenes is the way to go; less cup versus cupness, more in my face truth. My kind of guy.

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Post by SETIsLady » 07-31-2007 05:40 PM

Janus, I am going to pass Hans Alfven - Worlds-Antiworlds on to my husband that sounds right up his alley.

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