The Democratic National Committee Is Raging Against The Clinton Campaign Machine
It's no surprise that the hierarchy of the Clinton campaign leadership was insular and self-assured. But DNC staffers say the team's presumptuous, know-it-all attitude caused it to ignore early warning signs of electoral trouble inside the states, and demoralized DNC staff who felt largely marginalized or altogether neglected for most of the campaign. FULL STORY
The Hillary Clinton Corner: All things Hillary
Moderator: Super Moderators
DNC Staff: Arrogance Cost Hillary The Election
A mind should not be so open that the brains fall out; however, it should not be so closed that whatever gray matter which does reside may not be reached. ART BELL
Everything Woke turns to
-Donald Trump 
Everything Woke turns to
Re: The Hillary Clinton Corner: All things Hillary
The Democrats lost because they abandoned their traditional base, and by that I mean the poor and middle class, especially on economic issues. While the Left has over the course of the past 40-odd years increasingly backed issues related to expressly "women's issues" abortion rights, rights in the workplace, victims rights concerning sexual assaults, as well as issues revolving around alternative lifestyles and the rights attendant with that population, they have been viewed as being increasingly distant to core economic issues to the point of actually making them worse by engaging in trade policies that assist corporations in moving manufacturing jobs out of the country.
As one pundit noted the day after Hillary lost the campaign "Trump went to places in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin, saw something that Hillary didn't and tapped into it."
What Hillary and the rest of the DNC didn't see, nor appreciate, were all the shuttered factories and other businesses associated with manufacturing that have been leaving since the Nixon era, and the accelerated loss under President Clinton and his trade policies.
The Democrats stock answer is to provide social relief by way of "assistance", either food stamps or other forms of welfare - they simply do not have a sustainable plan for job creation. Obamacare, inadvertently created another pathway for the loss of fulltime benefited jobs as employers were penalized for having relatively large (50 or more employees) and so in typical fashion, the Democrats did not think through the inevitable consequences of requiring that businesses with 50 or more full time employees be forced to provide healthcare coverage. So came the inevitable reductions in force, reclassifying full-time employees as part time or per diem, forcing the poor and middle class to work harder, longer for less in benefits. The Obama administration's view is that any job created is better than no job being created, and so they counted "jobs" created, not accounting for the type of job being created. So, in their mind, a high-paying engineering job or a lost manufacturing job equated to a newly created service job, such as working behind a fast food counter, as they were looking at stats, not income inequality - the loss of income could be filled by social programs.......
There has been a lot of resentment building up with the Left who are increasingly seen as a political party that caters to the bicoastal elites and their pet causes and has abandoned the voters on bread and butter/ economic issues.
Trump recognized the decline of Hillary's support for jobs and manufacturing and recognized the deficit among disenfranchised voters who have felt left out of any planned progress during the Obama administration. Whereas Sanders came across as genuinely sympathetic and supportive of manufacturing employees, Hilary's late, new-found support for workers, post Sanders political assassination by the DNC, highlighted her inability to demonstrate a long term commitment to supporter the working class that was on a par with Sanders' support in term of duration or depth. Hillary came off as a recent arrival to class struggle as her well-documented strengths are in child development, children's rights and abortion/ contraception right issues.
The last two also put her at odds with another powerful labor-aligned group, and that is the Catholic Church. Labor has long historical ties to the Catholic Church in this country and has Hillary and the DNC has become more radicalized - deviating from what is universally accepted as traditional Church values of being pro-life, her support and that of the Democrats nationally, has also waned. Hillary didn't do herself and the rest of the Democrats any favors by insisting that an unborn child has "no rights" even to the point of a late trimester abortion when the fetus would be viable outside the womb, while championing the cause of people who are here in this country illegally.
This point has caused Catholics and others who share the belief that all life is sacred and worth protecting no little degree of consternation as Hillary and the Far Left have consistently worked to separate people into little boxes for the sake of convenience. So, according to this paradigm, we are to respect the rights of those who are here illegally, even committing crimes while squashing any thoughts of rights for those who are about to be born simply because the thought of that person's life and rights don't fit the Far Left's view.
Hillary and the Far Left presented the voter with too many contradictions and it was impossible to square them with any degree of confidence. Hillary's remarks about the non-rights of the unborn was delivered about the same time that I saw the article (and I'm sure others did as well), that souls have been proven to exist according to science.
Trump came out consistently stating that he was pro-life and I know for a fact that this statement alone swayed a number of voters who saw him (with all of HIS baggage) as the only alternative out there to what the pro-life block see as Hillary's campaign of what Saint Pope John Paul II called the culture of death.
The Democrats have dug a MAJOR hole for themselves.
They are shell shocked and every day you can see them on news shows and writing articles and blogs asking how they could have screwed this election up so royally. It's simple - they forgot their base and where they as a political party came from. And, for all of the Democrat political pundits who boasted of THEIR post-graduate degrees and looked down on the great unwashed supporters of Trump, it still amazes me that for al of the education, they misread the electorate and their goals and aspirations as human beings, separate from the hype, bias and polling questions. Until the Democrats can bring themselves to a point where they get their butts off their high horses and (to use their own word) respect their constituency, they will go the way of other political parties of the past.......
As one pundit noted the day after Hillary lost the campaign "Trump went to places in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin, saw something that Hillary didn't and tapped into it."
What Hillary and the rest of the DNC didn't see, nor appreciate, were all the shuttered factories and other businesses associated with manufacturing that have been leaving since the Nixon era, and the accelerated loss under President Clinton and his trade policies.
The Democrats stock answer is to provide social relief by way of "assistance", either food stamps or other forms of welfare - they simply do not have a sustainable plan for job creation. Obamacare, inadvertently created another pathway for the loss of fulltime benefited jobs as employers were penalized for having relatively large (50 or more employees) and so in typical fashion, the Democrats did not think through the inevitable consequences of requiring that businesses with 50 or more full time employees be forced to provide healthcare coverage. So came the inevitable reductions in force, reclassifying full-time employees as part time or per diem, forcing the poor and middle class to work harder, longer for less in benefits. The Obama administration's view is that any job created is better than no job being created, and so they counted "jobs" created, not accounting for the type of job being created. So, in their mind, a high-paying engineering job or a lost manufacturing job equated to a newly created service job, such as working behind a fast food counter, as they were looking at stats, not income inequality - the loss of income could be filled by social programs.......
There has been a lot of resentment building up with the Left who are increasingly seen as a political party that caters to the bicoastal elites and their pet causes and has abandoned the voters on bread and butter/ economic issues.
Trump recognized the decline of Hillary's support for jobs and manufacturing and recognized the deficit among disenfranchised voters who have felt left out of any planned progress during the Obama administration. Whereas Sanders came across as genuinely sympathetic and supportive of manufacturing employees, Hilary's late, new-found support for workers, post Sanders political assassination by the DNC, highlighted her inability to demonstrate a long term commitment to supporter the working class that was on a par with Sanders' support in term of duration or depth. Hillary came off as a recent arrival to class struggle as her well-documented strengths are in child development, children's rights and abortion/ contraception right issues.
The last two also put her at odds with another powerful labor-aligned group, and that is the Catholic Church. Labor has long historical ties to the Catholic Church in this country and has Hillary and the DNC has become more radicalized - deviating from what is universally accepted as traditional Church values of being pro-life, her support and that of the Democrats nationally, has also waned. Hillary didn't do herself and the rest of the Democrats any favors by insisting that an unborn child has "no rights" even to the point of a late trimester abortion when the fetus would be viable outside the womb, while championing the cause of people who are here in this country illegally.
This point has caused Catholics and others who share the belief that all life is sacred and worth protecting no little degree of consternation as Hillary and the Far Left have consistently worked to separate people into little boxes for the sake of convenience. So, according to this paradigm, we are to respect the rights of those who are here illegally, even committing crimes while squashing any thoughts of rights for those who are about to be born simply because the thought of that person's life and rights don't fit the Far Left's view.
Hillary and the Far Left presented the voter with too many contradictions and it was impossible to square them with any degree of confidence. Hillary's remarks about the non-rights of the unborn was delivered about the same time that I saw the article (and I'm sure others did as well), that souls have been proven to exist according to science.
Trump came out consistently stating that he was pro-life and I know for a fact that this statement alone swayed a number of voters who saw him (with all of HIS baggage) as the only alternative out there to what the pro-life block see as Hillary's campaign of what Saint Pope John Paul II called the culture of death.
The Democrats have dug a MAJOR hole for themselves.
They are shell shocked and every day you can see them on news shows and writing articles and blogs asking how they could have screwed this election up so royally. It's simple - they forgot their base and where they as a political party came from. And, for all of the Democrat political pundits who boasted of THEIR post-graduate degrees and looked down on the great unwashed supporters of Trump, it still amazes me that for al of the education, they misread the electorate and their goals and aspirations as human beings, separate from the hype, bias and polling questions. Until the Democrats can bring themselves to a point where they get their butts off their high horses and (to use their own word) respect their constituency, they will go the way of other political parties of the past.......
There you go man, keep as cool as you can. Face piles and piles of trials with smiles. It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave. And keep on thinking free. (Moody Blues)
Re: The Hillary Clinton Corner: All things Hillary
And to prove the point.........
Obama: Trump tapped into a 'troubling' strain
Athens, Greece (CNN) — President Barack Obama said Tuesday that Donald Trump tapped into a "troubling" strain of rhetoric playing on Americans' fears of globalization to win the presidency.
Speaking in Athens, Obama said he recognized an "anger and fear in the American population" over threats of mechanization and globalization, but that Republican officials didn't use facts when making their case about the US economy.
"You've seen some of the rhetoric among Republican elected officials and activists and media. Some of it pretty troubling and not necessarily connected to facts, but being used effectively to mobilize people," Obama said at a news conference alongside Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras. "And obviously President-elect Trump tapped into that particular strain within the Republican Party and then was able to broaden that enough and get enough votes to win the election."
Obama said countries across Europe, as well as the United States, were confronting populist movements based on a fear of intruding global forces.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/15/politics/ ... onference/
Notice that nowhere does Obama say that these are "unfounded" (or "imagined") intruding global forces - just that people fear them. I think that what people fear is having a family and not being able to provide for them......... basic instinct and the Dems just missed it.
Obama: Trump tapped into a 'troubling' strain
Athens, Greece (CNN) — President Barack Obama said Tuesday that Donald Trump tapped into a "troubling" strain of rhetoric playing on Americans' fears of globalization to win the presidency.
Speaking in Athens, Obama said he recognized an "anger and fear in the American population" over threats of mechanization and globalization, but that Republican officials didn't use facts when making their case about the US economy.
"You've seen some of the rhetoric among Republican elected officials and activists and media. Some of it pretty troubling and not necessarily connected to facts, but being used effectively to mobilize people," Obama said at a news conference alongside Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras. "And obviously President-elect Trump tapped into that particular strain within the Republican Party and then was able to broaden that enough and get enough votes to win the election."
Obama said countries across Europe, as well as the United States, were confronting populist movements based on a fear of intruding global forces.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/15/politics/ ... onference/
Notice that nowhere does Obama say that these are "unfounded" (or "imagined") intruding global forces - just that people fear them. I think that what people fear is having a family and not being able to provide for them......... basic instinct and the Dems just missed it.
There you go man, keep as cool as you can. Face piles and piles of trials with smiles. It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave. And keep on thinking free. (Moody Blues)
Re: The Hillary Clinton Corner: All things Hillary
kbot wrote:The Democrats lost because they abandoned their traditional base, and by that I mean the poor and middle class, especially on economic issues. While the Left has over the course of the past 40-odd years increasingly backed issues related to expressly "women's issues" abortion rights, rights in the workplace, victims rights concerning sexual assaults, as well as issues revolving around alternative lifestyles and the rights attendant with that population, they have been viewed as being increasingly distant to core economic issues to the point of actually making them worse by engaging in trade policies that assist corporations in moving manufacturing jobs out of the country.
As one pundit noted the day after Hillary lost the campaign "Trump went to places in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin, saw something that Hillary didn't and tapped into it."
What Hillary and the rest of the DNC didn't see, nor appreciate, were all the shuttered factories and other businesses associated with manufacturing that have been leaving since the Nixon era, and the accelerated loss under President Clinton and his trade policies.
The Democrats stock answer is to provide social relief by way of "assistance", either food stamps or other forms of welfare - they simply do not have a sustainable plan for job creation. Obamacare, inadvertently created another pathway for the loss of fulltime benefited jobs as employers were penalized for having relatively large (50 or more employees) and so in typical fashion, the Democrats did not think through the inevitable consequences of requiring that businesses with 50 or more full time employees be forced to provide healthcare coverage. So came the inevitable reductions in force, reclassifying full-time employees as part time or per diem, forcing the poor and middle class to work harder, longer for less in benefits. The Obama administration's view is that any job created is better than no job being created, and so they counted "jobs" created, not accounting for the type of job being created. So, in their mind, a high-paying engineering job or a lost manufacturing job equated to a newly created service job, such as working behind a fast food counter, as they were looking at stats, not income inequality - the loss of income could be filled by social programs.......
There has been a lot of resentment building up with the Left who are increasingly seen as a political party that caters to the bicoastal elites and their pet causes and has abandoned the voters on bread and butter/ economic issues.
Trump recognized the decline of Hillary's support for jobs and manufacturing and recognized the deficit among disenfranchised voters who have felt left out of any planned progress during the Obama administration. Whereas Sanders came across as genuinely sympathetic and supportive of manufacturing employees, Hilary's late, new-found support for workers, post Sanders political assassination by the DNC, highlighted her inability to demonstrate a long term commitment to supporter the working class that was on a par with Sanders' support in term of duration or depth. Hillary came off as a recent arrival to class struggle as her well-documented strengths are in child development, children's rights and abortion/ contraception right issues.
The last two also put her at odds with another powerful labor-aligned group, and that is the Catholic Church. Labor has long historical ties to the Catholic Church in this country and has Hillary and the DNC has become more radicalized - deviating from what is universally accepted as traditional Church values of being pro-life, her support and that of the Democrats nationally, has also waned. Hillary didn't do herself and the rest of the Democrats any favors by insisting that an unborn child has "no rights" even to the point of a late trimester abortion when the fetus would be viable outside the womb, while championing the cause of people who are here in this country illegally.
This point has caused Catholics and others who share the belief that all life is sacred and worth protecting no little degree of consternation as Hillary and the Far Left have consistently worked to separate people into little boxes for the sake of convenience. So, according to this paradigm, we are to respect the rights of those who are here illegally, even committing crimes while squashing any thoughts of rights for those who are about to be born simply because the thought of that person's life and rights don't fit the Far Left's view.
Hillary and the Far Left presented the voter with too many contradictions and it was impossible to square them with any degree of confidence. Hillary's remarks about the non-rights of the unborn was delivered about the same time that I saw the article (and I'm sure others did as well), that souls have been proven to exist according to science.
Trump came out consistently stating that he was pro-life and I know for a fact that this statement alone swayed a number of voters who saw him (with all of HIS baggage) as the only alternative out there to what the pro-life block see as Hillary's campaign of what Saint Pope John Paul II called the culture of death.
The Democrats have dug a MAJOR hole for themselves.
They are shell shocked and every day you can see them on news shows and writing articles and blogs asking how they could have screwed this election up so royally. It's simple - they forgot their base and where they as a political party came from. And, for all of the Democrat political pundits who boasted of THEIR post-graduate degrees and looked down on the great unwashed supporters of Trump, it still amazes me that for al of the education, they misread the electorate and their goals and aspirations as human beings, separate from the hype, bias and polling questions. Until the Democrats can bring themselves to a point where they get their butts off their high horses and (to use their own word) respect their constituency, they will go the way of other political parties of the past.......
Kbot, I don't know if you wrote this or it came from some where else? Absolutely NO mention of her Arms Deals, she arranged all over the Middle East, it didn't matter which side, for" pay to play", she is crooked and lies like a rug, but of course none of that seems important even though it is well documented. And it's not secret! A lot of people voted accordingly , just on her incredable "Nose Thumbing" of the Rule of Law! She is a total embarrassment to Democrats as well as the entire population of America.!
It's like doing a two page article on Ted Bundy, How handsome, articulate , and intelligent he was, but never mentioning he was a "Serial Killer" ! [/color
KARMA RULES
Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities': Voltaire
Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities': Voltaire
Clinton Camp Blames 'Internalized Misogyny' For Electoral Defeat
Move over James Comey. Hillary Clinton’s campaign has a new culprit for its loss to Donald Trump: Self-loathing, sexist women with “internalized misogyny” who couldn’t bring themselves to vote to elect the first woman president. FULL STORY
A mind should not be so open that the brains fall out; however, it should not be so closed that whatever gray matter which does reside may not be reached. ART BELL
Everything Woke turns to -Donald Trump
Everything Woke turns to
Dead Reckoning?
Something else to consider - So, I've heard the election was decided by a margin of 120-150K votes in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. Clearly a case of insufficient rigging - More 'get out the worm food vote' effort in those states? Hillary could be President Elect today.
Moral of the Story: Don't neglect the Rotting Class!
Moral of the Story: Don't neglect the Rotting Class!
A mind should not be so open that the brains fall out; however, it should not be so closed that whatever gray matter which does reside may not be reached. ART BELL
Everything Woke turns to -Donald Trump
Everything Woke turns to
Re: The Hillary Clinton Corner: All things Hillary
I wrote it Doka and I could have written a lot more except, where does one start? I'm seeing on a daily basis, a lot of soul-searching and recriminations on the part of the Left; a lot of second-guessing. Erin Burnett had a guest on her show last night who has successfully called the previous seven presidential elections - I guess that this makes eight now. His view is that people need to disregard the polls as they're worthless. The Democrats bought in to the polling data and the data was completely wrong because the methodology and purpose is skewed - a very tiny percentage of "likely voters" are polled - that's an infinitesimal group and hardly representative of the entire population. The Left have polls far more credence that was justified.Doka wrote: Kbot, I don't know if you wrote this or it came from some where else? Absolutely NO mention of her Arms Deals, she arranged all over the Middle East, it didn't matter which side, for" pay to play", she is crooked and lies like a rug, but of course none of that seems important even though it is well documented. And it's not secret! A lot of people voted accordingly , just on her incredable "Nose Thumbing" of the Rule of Law! She is a total embarrassment to Democrats as well as the entire population of America.!
It's like doing a two page article on Ted Bundy, How handsome, articulate , and intelligent he was, but never mentioning he was a "Serial Killer" ! [/color
They have a LOT of work to do - and, to their detriment, Trump has promised to unravel much of the Left's work dating back to Johnson's term.
Could get ugly.........
There you go man, keep as cool as you can. Face piles and piles of trials with smiles. It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave. And keep on thinking free. (Moody Blues)
Re: The Hillary Clinton Corner: All things Hillary
I would be more than Happy to vote for a woman President, but please offer me something other than a man hating , flea bitten, gold digging, Benedict Arnold. Not to mention the weak, ass kissin men, who when these pathetic women say jump, they say "How High"? Bill Clinton is a sick pervert , but, I'm really hard pressed to figure out who is sicker him or the crazy/sick woman that stuck with him, so she could be President. Men and Women's psyche on what they are meant to be is so screwed up, not a new thing certainly , but really out in left field now!
I really think just as many, if not more, women voted for Trump. He may be considered a "Bull in a China Shop" but there was no doubt that he was a "Bull".
I really think just as many, if not more, women voted for Trump. He may be considered a "Bull in a China Shop" but there was no doubt that he was a "Bull".
KARMA RULES
Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities': Voltaire
Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities': Voltaire
Re: The Hillary Clinton Corner: All things Hillary
I hear ya - I have no problem voting for a woman for president. I just have issues with Hillary. To me, she just isn't trustworthy.
There you go man, keep as cool as you can. Face piles and piles of trials with smiles. It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave. And keep on thinking free. (Moody Blues)
Re: The Hillary Clinton Corner: All things Hillary
KARMA RULES
Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities': Voltaire
Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities': Voltaire
The Great Deal
Indeed Hillary and the Dems screwed the pooch by relying way too heavily on polling data. As it is polling methods are anachronistic and especially this year as among other things, what happened was a turnout of UNLIKEY voterskbot wrote: The Democrats bought in to the polling data and the data was completely wrong because the methodology and purpose is skewed - a very tiny percentage of "likely voters" are polled - that's an infinitesimal group and hardly representative of the entire population. The Left have polls far more credence that was justified.
People who were disenfranchised and hadn't voted for eons or ever hearing Trump thought "at least here's a guy who says he'll do something to help us forgotten folk" - Bernie did too, but the Clinton/Dem machine ground him into the dirt -
What kind of deal for folks is that!? A Raw Deal, at best and nothing great about it - So in the end, what else does the result leave for Hillary and the Dems but a great deal of hand-wringing.
A mind should not be so open that the brains fall out; however, it should not be so closed that whatever gray matter which does reside may not be reached. ART BELL
Everything Woke turns to -Donald Trump
Everything Woke turns to
HOW SWEET IT IS
A mind should not be so open that the brains fall out; however, it should not be so closed that whatever gray matter which does reside may not be reached. ART BELL
Everything Woke turns to -Donald Trump
Everything Woke turns to
Re: The Great Deal
Hillary's supporters are still pushing the "she won the popular vote!!!!" dialogue like it actually means something. In our system of government, it means squat. I guess that when civics classes are dropped from the curriculum, this is what you get.Riddick wrote:Indeed Hillary and the Dems screwed the pooch by relying way too heavily on polling data. As it is polling methods are anachronistic and especially this year as among other things, what happened was a turnout of UNLIKEY voterskbot wrote: The Democrats bought in to the polling data and the data was completely wrong because the methodology and purpose is skewed - a very tiny percentage of "likely voters" are polled - that's an infinitesimal group and hardly representative of the entire population. The Left have polls far more credence that was justified.
People who were disenfranchised and hadn't voted for eons or ever hearing Trump thought "at least here's a guy who says he'll do something to help us forgotten folk" - Bernie did too, but the Clinton/Dem machine ground him into the dirt -
What kind of deal for folks is that!? A Raw Deal, at best and nothing great about it - So in the end, what else does the result leave for Hillary and the Dems but a great deal of hand-wringing.
There you go man, keep as cool as you can. Face piles and piles of trials with smiles. It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave. And keep on thinking free. (Moody Blues)
Re: The Hillary Clinton Corner: All things Hillary
Translation: Pretty Please Pardon Hiltlery from ALL THE CRIMES SHE DIDN'T DO, BUT, JUST IN CASE. 
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Jesse Jackson: Obama should pardon Hillary Clinton
Speaking at President Gerald Ford's alma mater, The Rev. Jesse Jackson called for President Obama to issue a blanket pardon to Hillary Clinton before he leaves office, just like Ford did for Richard Nixon.
Stopping short of saying Clinton did anything wrong, Jackson told a large crowd of University of Michigan students, faculty and administrators gathered at daylong celebration of his career that Obama should short-circuit President-elect Donald Trump's promised attempt to prosecute Hillary Clinton for use of a private e-mail server.
"It would be a monumental moral mistake to pursue the indictment of Hillary Clinton," Jackson said. He said issuing the pardon could help heal the nation, like Ford's pardon of Nixon did.
http://www.freep.com/story/news/politic ... /93979554/
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Jesse Jackson: Obama should pardon Hillary Clinton
Speaking at President Gerald Ford's alma mater, The Rev. Jesse Jackson called for President Obama to issue a blanket pardon to Hillary Clinton before he leaves office, just like Ford did for Richard Nixon.
Stopping short of saying Clinton did anything wrong, Jackson told a large crowd of University of Michigan students, faculty and administrators gathered at daylong celebration of his career that Obama should short-circuit President-elect Donald Trump's promised attempt to prosecute Hillary Clinton for use of a private e-mail server.
"It would be a monumental moral mistake to pursue the indictment of Hillary Clinton," Jackson said. He said issuing the pardon could help heal the nation, like Ford's pardon of Nixon did.
http://www.freep.com/story/news/politic ... /93979554/
KARMA RULES
Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities': Voltaire
Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities': Voltaire
Re: The Hillary Clinton Corner: All things Hillary
Hillary hasn't been charged for anything, so how can she be pardoned?????????
Besides, at this point, we don't know what she could be charged with, so asking for a pardon is premature. In any event, what she is suspected of doing endangers national security.
Have we sunk THIS LOW as a country when we can charge military personnel and wreck their careers while letting-off government officials for committing the exact same offense but multiple times?
Besides, at this point, we don't know what she could be charged with, so asking for a pardon is premature. In any event, what she is suspected of doing endangers national security.
Have we sunk THIS LOW as a country when we can charge military personnel and wreck their careers while letting-off government officials for committing the exact same offense but multiple times?
There you go man, keep as cool as you can. Face piles and piles of trials with smiles. It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave. And keep on thinking free. (Moody Blues)