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Obama surrogates threatening chaos at convention

Post by calamity jane » 02-18-2008 01:53 AM

There has been a drumbeat from Obama surrogates growing louder each week threatening disruption at the convention if pledged Super Delegates do not fall in line with the 'popular vote'.

This is not the work of a uniter. It is bullying by the Obama camp.

I think Obama is losing some of his appeal. This is the work of an opportunistic pol.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/1 ... 81205.html

*here's a link to the convention chaos comments:

http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/news.Prin ... -0302.html

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Post by Shirleypal » 02-18-2008 02:03 AM

I think Obama is losing some of his appeal. This is the work of an opportunistic pol.

Now they are accusing the Clinton camp of deliberately using the race card in a least two instances.....I haven't seen that. I will ask the question again, just who is Obama? I don't see him as being qualified for President.

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Post by Jon-Marcus » 02-18-2008 07:24 AM

Shirleypal wrote: Now they are accusing the Clinton camp of deliberately using the race card in a least two instances.....I haven't seen that. I will ask the question again, just who is Obama? I don't see him as being qualified for President.


According to the "god damned piece of paper" ....

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
...... those are the only qualifications anyone needs.
Of course, It doesn't work that way anymore.
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Post by whskyfan » 02-18-2008 07:42 AM

Good point Jon-Marcus. Maybe what we need is someone NOT qualified by todays standards. I'm beginning to believe that we might do better with "someone down the street" or the local bartender.
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Post by SETIsLady » 02-18-2008 08:33 AM

Heres the memo, this is not a memo telling anyone to go out and threaten chaos IMO. This is a memo address specific comments by Clinton and the former President, and that a Key figure in SC not Obama is taking issue with them. If the Clinton camp hadn't brought them up themselves, they wouldnt even be an issue.

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Subject: MUST READ: Key S.C. figure takes issue with Clintons

SHUCK AND JIVE

Clinton Supporter Andrew Cuomo, Referring To Obama, Said "You Can't Shuck
And Jive At A Press Conference. All Those Moves You Can Make With The Press
Don't Work When You're In Someone's Living Room." Clinton-supporting New
York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo said the thing that's great about New
Hampshire is that you have to go out and meet people rather than "shuck and
jive" through press conferences there. Cuomo said of New Hampshire on an
Albany radio station: "It's not a TV-crazed race. Frankly, you can't buy
your way into it. You can't shuck and jive at a press conference. All those
moves you can make with the press don't work when you're in someone's living
room." [Newsday, 1/11/08]

MARTIN LUTHER KING / LYNDON JOHNSON COMPARISON

Clinton, Criticizing Obama For Promising "False Hope" Said That While MLK
Jr. Spoke On Behalf Of Civil Rights, President Lyndon Johnson Was The One
Who Got Legislation Passed: "It Took A President To Get It Done." Clinton
rejoined the running argument over hope and "false hope" in an interview in
Dover this afternoon, reminding Fox's Major Garrett that while Martin Luther
King Jr. spoke on behalf of civil rights, President Lyndon Johnson was the
one who got the legislation passed. Hillary was asked about Obama's
rejoinder that there's something vaguely un-American about dismissing hopes
as false, and that it doesn't jibe with the careers of figures like John F.
Kennedy and King. "Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President
Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act," Clinton said. "It took a president to
get it done." [Politico, 1/7/08; Video]

Clinton Introducer Said JFK Gave Hope, But Was Assassinated. Clinton
introducer: "If you look back, some people have been comparing one of the
other candidates to JFK and he was a wonderful leader, he gave us a lot of
hope but he was assassinated and Lyndon Baines Johnson actually did all his
work and got the republicans to pass all those measures." [HRC, Dover, NH,
1/7/08] AUDIO ATTACHED

NELSON MANDELA

Bill Clinton Implied Hillary Clinton Is Stronger Than Nelson Mandela. "I
have been blessed in my life to know some of the greatest figures of the
last hundred years. [...] I go to Nelson Mandela's birthday party every year
and we're still very close. [...] But if you said to me, 'You've got one last
job for your country but it's hazardous and you may not get out with life
and limb intact and you have to do it alone except I'll let you take one
other person, and I had to pick one person whom I knew who would never
blink, who would never turn back, who would make great decisions [...] I would
pick Hillary.'" [ABC News, 1/7/08; Audio]

DRUG USE

Clinton's NH Campaign Chair Raised The Youthful Drug Use Of Obama And Said
It Would "Open The Door To Further Queries On The Matter." Clinton's
Campaign Issued A Statement Distancing Themselves From Shaheen's Comments
And Shaheen Issued A Statement Saying That He "Deeply Regret[s] The
Comments." The Democratic presidential race took on a decidedly nasty and
personal turn, with the New Hampshire co-chair for Clinton, raising the
youthful drug use of Obama. Shaheen said Obama's having been so open -- as
opposed to then-Gov. George W. Bush, who refused to detail his past drug use
during his 2000 presidential campaign -- will "open the door to further
queries on the matter. It'll be, 'When was the last time? Did you ever give
drugs to anyone? Did you sell them to anyone?'" Shaheen said. "There are so
many openings for Republican dirty tricks. It's hard to overcome." By the
end of the day, Clinton campaign spokesman Phil Singer had issued a
statement asserting that "these comments were not authorized or condoned by
the campaign in any way." And Shaheen himself issued a statement: "I deeply
regret the comments I made today and they were not authorized by the
campaign in any way." [ABC News, 12/12/07]

Mark Penn, In Trying To Defend His Campaign Over Bill Shaheen's Obama Drug
Use Comments, Used The Word "Cocaine," Drawing A Rebuke From Edwards Adviser
Joe Trippi. Mark Penn, defending the Clinton campaign in light of Bill
Shaheen's comments about Obama's drug use, repeatedly referenced Obama's
cocaine use. Edwards adviser Joe Trippi accused Penn of dropping the word
"cocaine" deliberately. Mark Penn said "Well, I think we have made clear
that the -- the issue related to cocaine use is not something that the
campaign was in any way raising. And I think that has been made clear. I
think this kindergarten thing was a joke after Senator." Joe Trippie
responded and said "I think he just did it again. He just did it again. ...
This guy's been filibustering on this. He just said cocaine again."
[Politico, 12/13/07; Video]

FAIRY TALE

Donna Brazile Lashed Into Bill Clinton For Comparing Obama To A "Fairy Tale"
And Said "It's An Insult... As An African-American" And That His Tone And
Words Are "Very Depressing." Donna Brazile lit into Bill Clinton over his
insulting comments of Obama, where he called him a "fairy tale" and said "I
could understand his frustration at this moment. But, look, he shouldn't
take out all his pain on Barack Obama. It's time that they regroup. Figure
out what Hillary needs to do to get her campaign back on track. It sounds
like sour grapes coming from the former commander in chief. Someone that
many Democrats hold in high esteem. For him to go after Obama, using a fairy
tale, calling him as he did last week. It's an insult. And I will tell you,
as an African-American, I find his tone and his words to be very depressing.
... I think his tone, I think calling Barack Obama a kid, he is a United
States senator." [Politico, 1/8/08]


Amaya Smith
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Post by whskyfan » 02-18-2008 08:45 AM

Well, after reading the memo I have to say that the bartender is looking pretty good...
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Post by joequinn » 02-18-2008 10:34 AM

Pardon my French, folks, but f**k them both! Save the country: force Gore at gunpoint to accept the nomination on the second ballot!
"Fuggedah about it, Jake --- it's Chinatown!"

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Post by Waverider » 02-18-2008 12:04 PM

joequinn wrote: Pardon my French, folks, but f**k them both! Save the country: force Gore at gunpoint to accept the nomination on the second ballot!


:D :D

That just might happened in some parallel universe...

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Post by Cherry Kelly » 02-18-2008 01:28 PM

...and all these foreign countries who are _YES ELECT OBAMA_ they like him.....

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...then we read the Global Poverty bill he's pushing or pushed in the Senate --

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HOPE --- CHANGE ---

I want substance...not going to get that... from any of these...characters.

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Post by tiffany » 02-18-2008 02:27 PM

If there is no choice then what do we do......I guess not vote.

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Post by joequinn » 02-18-2008 02:34 PM

The more that I think about Obama, the more I am convinced that he is, at best, a disaster and, at worst, a Trojan horse.

Save America! Force Gore at gunpoint to accept the Democratic nomination on the second ballot!
"Fuggedah about it, Jake --- it's Chinatown!"

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Post by tiffany » 02-18-2008 03:26 PM

joequinn wrote: .

Save America! Force Gore at gunpoint to accept the Democratic nomination on the second ballot!


And Joe, if that does not happen then what shall we do?

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Post by Bluespark » 02-21-2008 01:53 PM

I posted my response to this thread over here:

showthread.php?s=&postid=520561#post520561

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Post by Psychicwolf » 02-21-2008 02:49 PM

joequinn wrote: The more that I think about Obama, the more I am convinced that he is, at best, a disaster and, at worst, a Trojan horse.

Save America! Force Gore at gunpoint to accept the Democratic nomination on the second ballot!


Gore won't run but look for him to "stick it":) to the Clintons. Bill's penis cost Al Gore his chance at the Presidency and pay back is a b*tch. Look for Al to broker the convention, if it comes to that, and he will not find in the Clinton's favor.
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Post by tiffany » 02-21-2008 06:02 PM

Psychicwolf wrote: Gore won't run but look for him to "stick it":) to the Clintons. Bill's penis cost Al Gore his chance at the Presidency and pay back is a b*tch. Look for Al to broker the convention, if it comes to that, and he will not find in the Clinton's favor.


Ew interesting thoughts.

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