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Post by rumike » 10-09-2008 11:43 AM

Waverider wrote: If it's the one I think, does anyone know where he might be hanging out?


Underground parking lot. Watergate Hotel. 11 p.m. sharp. Make sure you are not followed. If you are, Joe says he will not be there.
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Post by Linnea » 10-09-2008 03:27 PM

Jeri, Joe's account was suspended for a month a while back, but has been active for the past three or so weeks. He had said a few times that he might take some time off until after the election as well.

So......

Do not know when or if he plans to return to the FF.

As for where he may be posting or not - don't know. He had also stated he had been banned for 30 days at another place he had been posting - for anti-Obama postings.

In his latest posts here, he made it very clear he thought not much about this forum and many of the Pirates here, especially the admin here - and the FF policies were fascist enabling due to allowing persons of certain ideologies to post here, or something like that. He was really pushing it. Self-admittedly so.

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Post by Live365 » 10-09-2008 03:44 PM

Linnea wrote: In his latest posts here, he made it very clear he thought not much about this forum and many of the Pirates here, especially the admin here - and the FF policies were fascist enabling due to allowing persons of certain ideologies to post here, or something like that. He was really pushing it. Self-admittedly so.


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Post by Linnea » 10-09-2008 04:51 PM

Live, what'cha got?


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Post by Live365 » 10-09-2008 06:05 PM

No, I understand! It's just that I was the one who brought it up, so I thought I should clarify. You just happened to clarify much better than I could. :)
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Post by Waverider » 10-10-2008 07:55 AM

Oh, O.K.
So... he sorta just crashed ahead of the global economy.

Thanks' for the update.

Funny, last I heard, Joe was going to vote for Barrack.


Lol' Rumike :D

Well, gee... wonder if the ole' saying will make a come back.

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er, maybe a gold eagle???
oz. or two....

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Post by Linnea » 10-10-2008 11:02 AM

'Brother, can you spare a dime' - Don't think there is anything anymore you can buy for a dime. But, I hear this.

Jeri - hope Joe will return after the election (or sooner). He posted here he was going to reluctantly vote for Obama, but basically thought Obama was just a flip side of the NWO coin. Very grim.

I have the feeling the 'people' are electing themselves this time around, and Obama is just the focal point. So, change IS coming, and I believe we will see an energized 'we the people'. It is either that, or doom - and I will not despair.

Not yet.

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Post by Joolz » 10-10-2008 05:13 PM

Linnea wrote: I have the feeling the 'people' are electing themselves this time around, and Obama is just the focal point. So, change IS coming, and I believe we will see an energized 'we the people'. It is either that, or doom - and I will not despair.

Not yet.
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Post by SETIsLady » 10-10-2008 06:16 PM

Linnea wrote: I have the feeling the 'people' are electing themselves this time around, and Obama is just the focal point. So, change IS coming, and I believe we will see an energized 'we the people'.
Well Said Linnea :)

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Post by Waverider » 10-10-2008 08:34 PM

Well said, yes' Linnea..

I've been watching to much CNBC the market and all...
Been getting depressed that the scene is happening so quickly..

The NWO'...

Barrack seems to say the right things...

I like your line, Linn'... "I will not despair."
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Post by joequinn » 11-05-2008 12:59 PM

As many of you suspected, I am back on the day after the election, and I wish to speak at length on the meaning of Obama’s victory. But before I do, I wish to speak, also at length, on my three months’ absence from The Fantastic Forum.

As early as the 2004 Presidential election campaign, I was aware, not merely that open fascists had penetrated The Fantastic Forum, but that the moderators, in the interests of drumming up greater interest in the forum, permitted them to do so. By the time of Hurricane Katrina in 2005, when my anti-fascist remarks almost had me banned, I was openly calling for a forum-wide revolt against the moderators’ stand, a call that went absolutely nowhere. People who would be willing to do the statistical research on my posts will note that my presence on The Fantastic Forum has never been the same since that time. My Brokeback Mountain thread, one of the most important threads ever posted on The Fantastic Forum, was motivated in large measure by my anxious desire to stay in the forum by avoiding electoral political topics in favor of aesthetic and cultural ones. But as the 2006 electoral campaign approached, I knew that I could not avoid taking a stand and calling a spade a spade. The escalating warfare between the fascist and anti-fascist factions of The Fantastic Forum made my banning (and probable eventual expulsion) from The Fantastic Forum inevitable.

The final straw came three months ago in August of 2008. The Fantastic Forum has been openly awash in fascist sentiment since 2004, with the enthusiastic support of the moderators. And then, quite suddenly, I began to see the naked fascism of the left in the sudden appearance on this forum of Obama advocates who quite obviously were experienced political operatives, and I saw these operatives --- who were just as despicable as their fascist counterparts --- also supported enthusiastically by the moderators here. The fascists here have been gunning for my head for years, but my fate here was sealed when I dared to criticize Obama. Both extremes joined together to force my expulsion from The Fantastic Forum. This push came at the time when I discovered an hour-long documentary on the JFK assassination (shown once and once only on The History Channel because of its explosive implications) that radically rewrites the history books on that seminal event in the history of modern American fascism. I posted links to all five parts of that documentary and I asked --- no, I begged --- people to watch it and to comment on it. With the exception of a few, a very few, souls, I was met with total silence. And when it became clear to me that The Fantastic Forum was totally uninterested in what I brought to the table, my cold fury, my highly dangerous cold fury, knew no bounds. Words sharp as razor blades passed back and forth; I vanished in a rage; I was subsequently banned for a month from The Fantastic Forum (a event about which I have just learned); and now, on the day after the election, I have returned (possibly for the last time, as the next paragraph may indicate, quite clearly).

I return here absolutely unrepentant. I have learned nothing, absolutely nothing, from my temporary expulsion. My views are the exactly the same that they were three months ago. If you voted for McCain/Palin in 2008, then you are a fascist traitor to the United States and you should be treated accordingly. If you voted for Bush/Cheney in 2004, then you are also a fascist traitor to the United States and you should be treated accordingly --- even if you voted for Obama/Biden in 2008. I am actually quite a cautious person, one who moves very slowly to a particular political position. But once I reach that position, I hold my ground there. I hold my ground here as well, even if it leads to my final expulsion from The Fantastic Forum. Here I stand; God help me; I can do no more. And I will never --- never --- change my position in this matter. And that is my final word on this subject.

Now for Obama, for whom I voted yesterday as the lesser of two evils in my horror at the political possibilities of Sarah Palin…

My intensifying disenchantment with the Democratic (or rather the Demokrat) Party has been quite a long time coming. Carter infuriated me with his capitulation to the fascists after they began their thirty-years-rule of the Amerikan Government by seizing the House of Representatives in 1978, and in 1980 I voted for Barry Commoner against him. I respect the post-Presidential Carter a great deal, but I do not repent my 1980 vote: indeed, my vote helped to make Carter the Nobel Peace Laureate that he is today. I never liked Bill and Hillary Clinton, but I came on board the Demokrat ticket in 1992 when Clinton chose Al Gore as his Vice-Presidental running-mate. I had such hopes in 1993 and 1994 that Clinton would roll back the Reaganite fascist tide, but when Hillary Clinton screwed up the national health insurance initiate in the fall of 1994, I turned against them both with a vengeance, a permanent vengeance. Yes, I voted for Clinton again in 1996 (again, out of fear of Jack Kemp in the driver’s seat if and when the Viagra Shill Dole keeled over), but in 2000, I openly voted for Nader (after making sure that Gore would win New York State’s electoral votes). This vote too I cannot regret: indeed, my vote helped to make Gore the Nobel Peace Laureate that he is today. In 2004 I voted for Kerry (half-mad with contempt for Dubya and everything that he stands for) and, as I mentioned earlier, yesterday I voted for Obama (half-mad with fear over a Sarah Palin Presidency). And yes, I have to admit that I do not regret my vote, although if I had known that Obama would win as widely in New York State as he did I would have voted gladly for Cynthia McKinney, an uppity n****r-b***h who quite obviously does not realize her inferior place on the Amerikan plantation and who keeps asking embarrassing questions that are far about her proper lowly station in the utterly decent and the utterly respectable culture of the bourgeois gentry.

I will never forget my introduction to Barack Obama in that keynote speech at the Demokrat Convention of 2004. I knew, instantly, that Obama was going to be a Presidential force to be reckoned with in the future, although in my political naivete, I suspected that he was being primed for 2012 or even 2016. No, folks, he was being primed, right then and there, for 2008, and I was too naïve to realize it. But I did know that he never could have reached that podium unless he had sold himself, body and soul, to the Cryptocracy. I didn’t know that details of that unholy sale (as perhaps I know them now), but I knew that he was a creature of the Cryptocracy. That was my introduction to Barack Obama, and I have never liked or trusted the man a bit since that time. I may have been totally indifferent to Hillary Clinton’s fate in the 2008 Demokrat primaries, but I never liked Obama either. I planned to vote for Edwards in the New York State Demokrat Primary, but he disappeared a week before the primary (we now know why, don’t we?), and so I voted for Kucinich, another vote for which I have no regrets. But yesterday, faced with the choice between two evils, I chose the lesser one and I voted for Obama.

But you people should not rejoice prematurely. American fascism --- overt American fascism --- was defeated yesterday, but only temporarily and superficially. Red-State Amerika still exists, and don’t you doubt it for a single moment. The Rethuglikan Party still exists, and don’t you doubt it for a single moment. The Amerikan people --- the debased, degenerate, doomed Amerikan people --- have summoned the black janitor with his mop and pail to clean up the piss, the s**t and the vomit of a thirty-year-long frat party. When he has done so, he can return to his clapboard shack as the frat boys return to booze and to barf again. Don’t you doubt it for a second. The post-war Amerikan soul is intrinsically fascist (anima naturaliter fascista), and it will betray Obama just as it betrayed those who came before him. Let me repeat: Amerika is fascist, and if it cannot rule the world, then it will take the entire planet with it into the abyss. Watch the events of the next decade: you’ll see.

Obama has feet of clay, and now that the Obamabots have disappeared to feed at the patronage trough for their diligent hack-work, we can begin to see his weaknesses for what they are. Hard as it may be for some of you to believe, Obama may not be a native-born Amerikan citizen, and even if he were, his removal to Indonesia in 1967 may have invalidated his Amerikan citizenship. And let’s get it straight: if foreign-born Alexander Hamilton couldn’t become President of the United States in the 18th century, then (if the allegations be proven) a foreign-born Barack Obama can’t remain President of the United States in the 21st century. Obama’s highly mysterious junior and senior years at Columbia University (1981-1983) need to be investigated in depth, since evidence indicates that he was recruited, there and then, to the Brzezinski faction of the Cryptocracy, that he sold his soul, there and then, to the powers of darkness. Obama’s activities at Harvard Law School are quite an eye-opener for anyone who seeks to investigate them: he became head of The Harvard Law Review through a deal that he cut with the The Federalist Society, the fascist club at the Harvard Law School, and then gave the fascists three important positions on The Harvard Law Review, to the exclusion of his black supporters, after his election.

Obama’s activities in Chicago since the late 1980s deserve to be investigated in great depth. He carefully cultivated the image of a commie pinko populist fag through his associations with the Reverend Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayres, but as I have always known, these two individuals were played by him and then discarded when they no longer were useful to him. But Obama’s associations with the corrupt Chicago machine (including real-estate developer Resko) were far more serious and highly suspicious, and they have never truly been investigated. And meanwhile, all the time, the baleful shadow of his political godfather, Zbigniew Brzezinski (the man who created Al-Qaida after he had suckered the dumb Soviets into Afghanistan in 1979) floated in the background.

Obama’s brief political career and his Presidential campaign are masterpieces of political organization, and I am second to none in my admiration for his supreme political cunning. But we are going to learn that his storm-trooper Obamabats may have received CIA/NSA support during the primary season, one indication of their insuperable ferocity (which I have tasted, first-hadn). And I will never forget the chilling look in Obama’s face last night in Grant Park (the very place in which Amerikan fascism came into being in late August of 1968 to the tap of a cop’s nightstick) when he told his supporters that they were not going to be pleased with everything that he did. The blacks were dancing in the streets last night, just as they danced in the streets of Cambridge on the night that Obama was elected editor of The Harvard Law Review: let them dance, for they will not dance long. The gays, who never trusted Obama in the first place, are merely the first casualties of his electoral victory: the people who voted for Obama, especially the black and Latino people who voted for Obama, also voted for Proposition 8, the first time in Amerikan history when a state constitution was specifically amended to take rights away from state citizens. Obama may --- may! --- get us out of Iraq, but certainly not quickly enough to satisfy the Amerikan people and then only to go to de facto war with Pakistan. Obama is not going to pass single-payer national health insurance (he has openly come out against it). Obama is not going to repeal don’t ask don’t tell in the military or to advocate for gay marriage (he has openly come out against both). Obama continues to blame Russia for the Russo-Georgian War of last August, and why not? His gray eminence Brzezinski was instrumental in bringing Sakashvili to power in Georgia in the first place. Indeed, under Brzezinski’s tutelage, Obama may well revive the Cold War, a possibility of which both Putin and Medvedev are clearly aware. And it would not be surprising if Obama ends up becoming the fascist-lite swine who ends both social security and medicare, just as Clinton was the fascist-lite swine who ended welfare (most of whose recipients never had been black welfare queens in pink cadillacs). Obama is not going to repeal the bank bailout, which people stupidly deplore as a sign that Bush has turned “commie” but which actually is an unprecedented --- and openly fascist --- privatization of the Federal Government by Wall Street. And Obama is not going to override Bush’s legacy of Executive Orders: indeed, Gollum showed far more moral strength against the Great Ring of Power than Obama will show when he first sees the full panoply of those gleaming clutches and levers of unitary Presidential control.

I have been saying --- for years now --- that the game is over, that the Amerikan Empire is finished, and that the best we can hope for is a quick and merciful death to the entire farce. Under Obama, however, the death will be anything but quick and merciful. The debased, degenerate and doomed Amerikan populace will be screaming, pissing, s***ting and vomiting all over the hospital bed as the tube-fed drugs desperately try to keep its lost soul alive as the demons close in to seize his soul. There are no second acts in Amerikan lives, as F. Scott Fitzgerald (who certainly would have been at home in the Age of Dubya) has told us; the wages of sin is death, as that textbook of Judaeo-Christian mythology tells us; and the bright day being done, we are for the dark, as the Bard of Avon has told us. Amerika is OVAH, folks, OVAH, and Obama’s election is but one more staggering step toward the grave, as the global demons close in on us all. And there it stands…
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Post by joequinn » 11-05-2008 01:01 PM

And here I stand. If you don’t like what I have said here, then lump it, because you will hear nothing else from me. And if, the next time I return to this thread, I discover that I have been barred, terminally barred, from The Fantastic Forum, then I couldn’t care less. Even if I am not barred, I will regard myself as being in enemy territory whenever I am here. And the responsibility for what that expulsion will make The Fantastic Forum will be yours, not mine. Surely, if you expel me again, your own long-term survival is highly doubtful. And who knows? Maybe it would be better if you disappear altogether.

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Post by Psychicwolf » 11-05-2008 02:07 PM

Hi Joe! Well, if you read a post I wrote a few days ago, you know I have really missed you! I am willing to fix you a really nice crow dinner for your statement a few months back, that Americans wouldn't elect a black man President.:D That aside, I hope you will stick around.

<i>"Obama continues to blame Russia for the Russo-Georgian War of last August, and why not? His gray eminence Brzezinski was instrumental in bringing Sakashvili to power in Georgia in the first place. Indeed, under Brzezinski’s tutelage, Obama may well revive the Cold War, a possibility of which both Putin and Medvedev are clearly aware."</i>

That didn't even take 24 hours.
showthread.php?s=&threadid=36933
Note that it has been read 24 times with no comment. Folks are still celebrating and not ready to come down yet. However, I think the moves by the Russians here have more to do with the diminishing price of oil and prep for positioning at the G20 later this month. Leveraging, etc.

<i>" Obama is not going to repeal the bank bailout, which people stupidly deplore as a sign that Bush has turned “commie” but which actually is an unprecedented --- and openly fascist --- privatization of the Federal Government by Wall Street.</ i>

No he's not going to revoke the TARP and here's where BHO can break faith with me bigtime. The TARP is not working at what it was intended to do (loosen interbank lending) and I am unhappy with who has been selected to administer it. Who is going to be Sec Treas and Fed Chair. I could be appeased (somewhat) with the misogynist Lawrence Summer, or the Tri-Lat guy Volcker, but if he puts Jamie Dimon in as Treas Sec I am going to come unglued.:(

<i>"And Obama is not going to override Bush’s legacy of Executive Orders: indeed, Gollum showed far more moral strength against the Great Ring of Power than Obama will show when he first sees the full panoply of those gleaming clutches and levers of unitary Presidential control."</i>

Here I am hoping you are wrong. But time will tell. This was one of the issues I most counted on BHO for and will be watching carefully.

Stick around Joe! We are going to be living through some "Interesting Times". The G20 is coming in a couple of weeks to set the 2009 economic agenda and there have been some wild proposals and statements by leaders who will be attending. Bretton Woods 2 complete with new "world currency", end of American economic dominance...I know ya gotta have opinions on all that.:D
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Post by Psychicwolf » 11-05-2008 02:09 PM

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Post by HB3 » 11-05-2008 02:24 PM

Psychicwolf wrote: the misogynist Lawrence Summer


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