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Post by racehorse » 11-30-2008 01:22 AM

"All the Star Trek Girls" (TOS)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=53usieQlsyU
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Post by Kaztronic » 11-30-2008 01:42 AM

I think the best episode with yeoman Rand was a personal favorite of mine, "Charlie X". Live, check out some YouTube clips of that episode, and you'll probably find some good videos of Janice Rand (who also appeared in Star Trek VI working with Captain Sulu on the Excelsior).

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Post by Kaztronic » 11-30-2008 01:47 AM

HB3 wrote: That rules.


Here ya go, the Mugato in ACTION!:

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Post by HB3 » 11-30-2008 02:38 AM

That was great. Also, this is pretty hilarious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1eFdUSn ... re=related

It really may be the "worst fight scene ever."

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Post by Kaztronic » 11-30-2008 02:41 AM

HaHa!

The Gorn :)

See, that is what makes TOS so incredibly awesome!

I'd like to see Captain Picard try that one on for size :D
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Post by racehorse » 11-30-2008 03:09 AM

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85. Picard would never ATTEMPT hand-to-hand combat with a Gorn.

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Post by Crow T. Robot » 11-30-2008 08:31 AM

I do not know if this is traditionalist or not but it's one of my favorites.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUA35XQxxw8

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Post by racehorse » 11-30-2008 11:19 AM

Great to see you again, Crow T. Robot. :)

It has been a very long time.
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Post by Live365 » 11-30-2008 04:31 PM

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85. Picard would never ATTEMPT hand-to-hand combat with a Gorn.


:D

Frankly, I place "Arena" as the very worst of all the episodes. The common sentiment is that it's "Spock's Brain", but I challenge with "Arena". It is the only episode I've seen less than five times, because I find it simply unbearable.

But it beats the Borg. :D
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Post by racehorse » 11-30-2008 05:22 PM

Live365 wrote: :D

Frankly, I place "Arena" as the very worst of all the episodes. The common sentiment is that it's "Spock's Brain", but I challenge with "Arena". It is the only episode I've seen less than five times, because I find it simply unbearable.


I think "Arena" is probably the worst TOS episode, too. A much better variation on the theme is the movie "Enemy Mine" which is actually pretty good.
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Post by Kaztronic » 11-30-2008 05:59 PM

I find "Shore Leave" to be unbelievably bad as well :p

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Post by Live365 » 11-30-2008 06:38 PM

My Bottom Five (to date, in descending order):

5. Light of Zetar
4. Shore Leave
3. Spock's Brain
2. Catspaw
1. Arena

Of course, in my youth, I hated these below episodes too. Only to find out as I grew how brilliant they were:

Mudd's Women
Return of the Archons
The Devil in the Dark
Spectre of the Gun
The Alternative Factor (my most regretable choice; now in my top ten)

So you never know!! Genius is genius.

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Post by racehorse » 11-30-2008 06:41 PM

Kaztronic wrote: I find "Shore Leave" to be unbelievably bad as well :p

Shore Leave


Other contenders are "Patterns of Force", "Spectre of the Gun", "The Omega Glory", "The Savage Curtain", and "A Piece of the Action". All are to a degree based on Earth History and taken to ridiculous levels. I love History and it is because of that I abhor these episodes. It is unlikely alien civilizations would try to emulate Earth History and culture to the degree represented by these episodes.
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Post by Live365 » 11-30-2008 06:45 PM

racehorse wrote: It is unlikely alien civilizations would try to emulate Earth History and culture to the degree represented by these episodes.


Good point, Race!!
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Post by HB3 » 11-30-2008 06:49 PM

racehorse wrote: Other contenders are "Patterns of Force", "Spectre of the Gun", "The Omega Glory", "The Savage Curtain", and "A Piece of the Action". All are to a degree based on Earth History and taken to ridiculous levels. I love History and it is because of that I abhor these episodes. It is unlikely alien civilizations would try to emulate Earth History and culture to the degree represented by these episodes.


I don't know these, but I'd guess they're using the distant alien civilizations as a means to critique Earth History, mostly the contemporary US. Wasn't ST known for this? As well as most thoughtful sci-fi, of course.

"Oh no, we aren't talking about contemporary society -- this is somewhere in a different planet on the other side of the galaxy! Nothing to do w/ us...."

The Soviet author Zamyatin did this in the novel WE. He never could've gotten away w/ writing directly about Soviet society.

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