And the freak-out continues
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Looks to be the case Doka - the story WAS there yesterday afternoon (barely 12 hours ago).......
Breitbart has another story though:
On Monday’s broadcast of CNN’s “Wolf,” CNN White House Reporter Kaitlan Collins stated she didn’t find former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer’s joke about the crowd size at the Emmys funny and said that the joke didn’t sit well with her.
After seeing a clip of Spicer joking that the Emmys had the largest audience ever, Collins said, “I did not find it humorous at all. As someone who sat in that press briefing room every day that Sean Spicer was the press secretary, I just don’t think it’s humorous when the former White House spokesman comes out, at this awards show, with all these Hollywood celebrities that they often rail against, to make fun of the fact — and you know, pretty much admit that he lied to the American people, while he was being paid by the American people to be a spokesman for the White House.”
She later added, “Isn’t it interesting that now that he’s washed his hands of the White House, he can make light of the fact that came out there, to that podium, and trotted out this misinformation to people who trust someone like that who represents the president. It’s a very grave position, and you have a lot of responsibility. So, him making light of it just did not sit well with me.”
CNN Chief Political Analyst Gloria Borger said that the ceremony may have helped Spicer’s image, but didn’t help Hollywood. She explained that it looks like Hollywood is “in on the joke” that Spicer wasn’t telling the truth from the podium.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/09/ ... l-with-me/
Breitbart has another story though:
On Monday’s broadcast of CNN’s “Wolf,” CNN White House Reporter Kaitlan Collins stated she didn’t find former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer’s joke about the crowd size at the Emmys funny and said that the joke didn’t sit well with her.
After seeing a clip of Spicer joking that the Emmys had the largest audience ever, Collins said, “I did not find it humorous at all. As someone who sat in that press briefing room every day that Sean Spicer was the press secretary, I just don’t think it’s humorous when the former White House spokesman comes out, at this awards show, with all these Hollywood celebrities that they often rail against, to make fun of the fact — and you know, pretty much admit that he lied to the American people, while he was being paid by the American people to be a spokesman for the White House.”
She later added, “Isn’t it interesting that now that he’s washed his hands of the White House, he can make light of the fact that came out there, to that podium, and trotted out this misinformation to people who trust someone like that who represents the president. It’s a very grave position, and you have a lot of responsibility. So, him making light of it just did not sit well with me.”
CNN Chief Political Analyst Gloria Borger said that the ceremony may have helped Spicer’s image, but didn’t help Hollywood. She explained that it looks like Hollywood is “in on the joke” that Spicer wasn’t telling the truth from the podium.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/09/ ... l-with-me/
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And WAPO is all in a dither......... I loved the "we're apolitical" line..........
Sean Spicer wanted to ‘poke a little fun at myself’ at the Emmys. But what was the joke?
“The treatment of Spicer is another breakdown of political norms,” London School of Economics fellow Brian Klaas tweeted. “If we just joke about and reward people who lie in government, more will.”
“Sean Spicer sold his soul to work for Trump and repeatedly lied from the podium. Hilarious!” wrote Tommy Vietor, co-host of the podcast “Pod Save America.”
“The degree to which Sean Spicer has faced no consequences is a glimpse into the post-Trump future,” added Slate chief political correspondent Jamelle Bouie.
“Ugh NO to Sean Spicer,” wrote journalist and author Mark Harris. “It’s so great that we can embrace someone who used a powerful position to abuse the press and lie to America.”
On Monday afternoon, the Television Academy released the following statement: “The Television Academy is apolitical. Via its 22,000 voting members who work throughout the industry, the Academy recognizes television’s excellence and inclusiveness through Emmy nominees and winners. The creative direction of the Emmy show is set by each year’s production team and host. We respect their creative choices.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyl ... 6#comments
Sean Spicer wanted to ‘poke a little fun at myself’ at the Emmys. But what was the joke?
“The treatment of Spicer is another breakdown of political norms,” London School of Economics fellow Brian Klaas tweeted. “If we just joke about and reward people who lie in government, more will.”
“Sean Spicer sold his soul to work for Trump and repeatedly lied from the podium. Hilarious!” wrote Tommy Vietor, co-host of the podcast “Pod Save America.”
“The degree to which Sean Spicer has faced no consequences is a glimpse into the post-Trump future,” added Slate chief political correspondent Jamelle Bouie.
“Ugh NO to Sean Spicer,” wrote journalist and author Mark Harris. “It’s so great that we can embrace someone who used a powerful position to abuse the press and lie to America.”
On Monday afternoon, the Television Academy released the following statement: “The Television Academy is apolitical. Via its 22,000 voting members who work throughout the industry, the Academy recognizes television’s excellence and inclusiveness through Emmy nominees and winners. The creative direction of the Emmy show is set by each year’s production team and host. We respect their creative choices.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyl ... 6#comments
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Wow ! These ghouls are turned on to their splendid selves, by anything. How they can get long articles, and days of press is beyond me. Anal minds only need to apply.
This is the only thing I could find , was it just a one liner or was there more? I didn't watch the "Emmy's of Carnage" kind of like willingly exposing myself to a high dose of radiation! Who in their right mind would do that?
https://youtu.be/7xD9pNcfKYU
This is the only thing I could find , was it just a one liner or was there more? I didn't watch the "Emmy's of Carnage" kind of like willingly exposing myself to a high dose of radiation! Who in their right mind would do that?
https://youtu.be/7xD9pNcfKYU
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Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities': Voltaire
Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities': Voltaire
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To be honest with you, I didn't watch. This was basically what I saw on CNN and online.
I think about the times when I would wake up to get ready for work, and start flipping through the channels at 4:30 or so and there'd be Christine Romans salivating over these type of stories, so, now that the roles are reversed, I'm trying to figure out what CNNs problem is............
I think about the times when I would wake up to get ready for work, and start flipping through the channels at 4:30 or so and there'd be Christine Romans salivating over these type of stories, so, now that the roles are reversed, I'm trying to figure out what CNNs problem is............
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Quote:"I'm trying to figure out what CNNs problem is............"
If you haven't figured their motives out by now Kbot, It's probably not worth spending your time on.
If you haven't figured their motives out by now Kbot, It's probably not worth spending your time on.
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Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities': Voltaire
Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities': Voltaire
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Was a rhetorical question Doka, and probably not worth stating - they've been in the Left's corner since the Clinton days (at least......)
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Can Liberals Recover From Trump Derangement Syndrome?
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It is easy to dismiss the impeachment efforts of Democratic Reps. Brad Sherman, Al Green and Maxine Waters as eye-rolling manifestations of Trump Derangement Syndrome. But it will be harder for responsible Democrats to ignore or excuse the party backbenchers and grandstanders now that hedge-fund billionaire Tom Steyer has pledged $10 million to the cause of impeaching the president.
In an open lette, Mr. Steyer called on grass-roots Democrats “to urge your federal representatives to remove him from office at once.” On Mr. Steyer’s list of impeachable offenses were Mr. Trump’s decisions to end President Obama’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, to block Obama-era regulatory initiatives, to withdraw from the Paris climate accord and to seek ObamaCare’s repeal and replacement.
By asserting a president should be removed from office over policy differences, Mr. Steyer has done more than trivialize impeachment. He helps move America closer to the tyranny Mr. Trump is accused of having brought about. Still, his pressure for Democrats to join his banana republic-style coup will hurt many of that party’s candidates in close contests, regardless of their answer.
When their national party chairman calls Mr. Trump an “existential threat” to America and history’s “most dangerous president,” Democrats cheer. Yet these overwrought comments could turn off swing voters, especially if they have Republican choices on the ballot who come across as focused on making the nation more prosperous, united and secure.
Democrats have a tremendous challenge in reforming their party, which is at its weakest point in a century, largely thanks to Mr. Obama and Hillary Clinton. Yet many of them can’t help but obsess on impeachment and mimic Mr. Obama’s moral hectoring. Both are good ways to lose elections and stay out of power.
- Edited & Abridged From Karl Rove's Full WSJ Article (Paywall)
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The Sad Facts About Trump Derangement Syndrome
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The TDS/SJW Joint Grievances Committee Meeting
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...OH NOES! A Committee Crasher!
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Can you say FREAKOUT!!!
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MEETING ADJOURNED
Epilogue:
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Freakouters Take Note
Repeating History?
Excerpted from The Federalist
It’s difficult to project certainty about the future, but one cannot help but draw comparisons between 2018 and 1998. The new year, like 1998, will be dominated by a well-established prosecutor leading an extensive investigation into the presidency. The scandal will enrapture cable news.
If history demonstrates, the audience will ultimately become fatigued, disinterested, and even frustrated. The opposing party of the White House, endowed with moral certitude, will believe its reward awaits at the polls. But 1998 reminds us that Election Day can be an unpredictable civic exercise.
Anti-Trump Is Democrats’ Sole Play
Democrats enter a midterm election year replicating the Republican playbook of the late 1990s. The party’s obsession with bringing down Trump has extinguished any coherent political strategy. Their fixation with the Russia story is really a daily prayer that Trump will be impeached, invalidating what happened in 2016.
In the London Review of Books, Rutgers University Professor Jackson Lears wrote that “Trump’s election has created a permanent emergency in the liberal imagination, based on the belief that the threat he poses is unique and unprecedented.”
Certain Republicans shared this sentiment about Clinton in 1998. In the 1990s, the late Richard Mellon Scaife—billionaire heir to the Mellon banking fortune—spent millions to unearth Clinton scandals. Two decades later, it is Tom Steyer, the billionaire hedge fund manager, delivering nightly pleas on television, solemnly imploring cable news viewers to join the cause to impeach Trump.
The difference between 1998 and 2018 is the media’s response to the opposing party’s attempts to challenge the presidency. In 1998, mainstream reporters were turned off by the often unsubstantiated allegations. In 2018, the media shares the opposing party’s outrage, and reports accordingly.
It’s Possible to Overdo the Manufactured Anger
But Democrats’ anger remains misdirected. Trump’s controversies, the Russian story, and social media’s power still fail to account for the party’s inability to process the electorate’s resentment in states like Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Republicans faced a similar identity crisis in 1998, when their efforts to delegitimize Clinton obfuscated any clear policy positions.
The GOP’s relentless drive to remove Clinton from office turned the public against them. Voters were exhausted by the media coverage. What resulted was the first time a non-presidential party failed to gain congressional seats in a midterm election. When the House proceeded with Clinton’s impeachment, polls showed the president’s approval rating approaching 75 percent.
In 2018, Democrats have no real message. Their closest attempt occurred last August with the laughable “Better Deal” platform. Senate and House Democrats presented a pro-working class plank, hoping to recover a voting coalition lost amidst identity politics in 2016. But the platform is largely forgotten, with Democrats now believing that Roy Moore’s Senate loss in Alabama portends a favorable future. They are basing their electoral destiny on the most flawed candidate in contemporary American politics.
Hubris Feeds An Opponent’s Resiliency
Since Moore’s defeat, media-induced enthusiasm not only distracts Democrats from developing a message, but also raising money. As The Wall Street Journal recently reported, the Democratic National Committee only had $6.3 million on-hand as of December 1, compared to the Republican National Committee’s $40 million.
The RNC’s cash advantage parallels the strength of the Congressional Leadership Fund, the House Republican “super PAC” embarking on a $10 million advertising campaign in competitive districts. Democrats hope to reverse their misfortune, as outgoing Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe told the Journal: “I have heard a lot of donors say they need to take a break.”
Of course, history consistently demonstrates that the president’s party typically loses congressional seats in midterm elections. There are enough competitive Republican-held seats in California, the Mid-Atlantic, and scattered throughout the country to make retaining the House a challenge. But the path to a majority isn’t the 1998 playbook.
As the new year commences, both parties find themselves situated in a position oddly reminiscent of that period. The economy remains healthy, the stock market thrives, and employment levels appear stable. Just like 1998, the ratings-driven media continues to panic over White House revelations while foreign policy crises loom.
Back then, it was U.S. embassy bombings and the rise of al-Qaeda. Today, it’s North Korea’s nuclear proliferation, tension in the Middle East driven by Saudi Arabia and Iran, Ukraine’s precarious position with Russia, and China’s rising power. All these remind us that the year will deliver unexpected events and political developments. They also show that revisiting 1998 presents a worthy history lesson of one party’s hubris and another president’s resiliency.
Excerpted from The Federalist
It’s difficult to project certainty about the future, but one cannot help but draw comparisons between 2018 and 1998. The new year, like 1998, will be dominated by a well-established prosecutor leading an extensive investigation into the presidency. The scandal will enrapture cable news.
If history demonstrates, the audience will ultimately become fatigued, disinterested, and even frustrated. The opposing party of the White House, endowed with moral certitude, will believe its reward awaits at the polls. But 1998 reminds us that Election Day can be an unpredictable civic exercise.
Anti-Trump Is Democrats’ Sole Play
Democrats enter a midterm election year replicating the Republican playbook of the late 1990s. The party’s obsession with bringing down Trump has extinguished any coherent political strategy. Their fixation with the Russia story is really a daily prayer that Trump will be impeached, invalidating what happened in 2016.
In the London Review of Books, Rutgers University Professor Jackson Lears wrote that “Trump’s election has created a permanent emergency in the liberal imagination, based on the belief that the threat he poses is unique and unprecedented.”
Certain Republicans shared this sentiment about Clinton in 1998. In the 1990s, the late Richard Mellon Scaife—billionaire heir to the Mellon banking fortune—spent millions to unearth Clinton scandals. Two decades later, it is Tom Steyer, the billionaire hedge fund manager, delivering nightly pleas on television, solemnly imploring cable news viewers to join the cause to impeach Trump.
The difference between 1998 and 2018 is the media’s response to the opposing party’s attempts to challenge the presidency. In 1998, mainstream reporters were turned off by the often unsubstantiated allegations. In 2018, the media shares the opposing party’s outrage, and reports accordingly.
It’s Possible to Overdo the Manufactured Anger
But Democrats’ anger remains misdirected. Trump’s controversies, the Russian story, and social media’s power still fail to account for the party’s inability to process the electorate’s resentment in states like Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Republicans faced a similar identity crisis in 1998, when their efforts to delegitimize Clinton obfuscated any clear policy positions.
The GOP’s relentless drive to remove Clinton from office turned the public against them. Voters were exhausted by the media coverage. What resulted was the first time a non-presidential party failed to gain congressional seats in a midterm election. When the House proceeded with Clinton’s impeachment, polls showed the president’s approval rating approaching 75 percent.
In 2018, Democrats have no real message. Their closest attempt occurred last August with the laughable “Better Deal” platform. Senate and House Democrats presented a pro-working class plank, hoping to recover a voting coalition lost amidst identity politics in 2016. But the platform is largely forgotten, with Democrats now believing that Roy Moore’s Senate loss in Alabama portends a favorable future. They are basing their electoral destiny on the most flawed candidate in contemporary American politics.
Hubris Feeds An Opponent’s Resiliency
Since Moore’s defeat, media-induced enthusiasm not only distracts Democrats from developing a message, but also raising money. As The Wall Street Journal recently reported, the Democratic National Committee only had $6.3 million on-hand as of December 1, compared to the Republican National Committee’s $40 million.
The RNC’s cash advantage parallels the strength of the Congressional Leadership Fund, the House Republican “super PAC” embarking on a $10 million advertising campaign in competitive districts. Democrats hope to reverse their misfortune, as outgoing Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe told the Journal: “I have heard a lot of donors say they need to take a break.”
Of course, history consistently demonstrates that the president’s party typically loses congressional seats in midterm elections. There are enough competitive Republican-held seats in California, the Mid-Atlantic, and scattered throughout the country to make retaining the House a challenge. But the path to a majority isn’t the 1998 playbook.
As the new year commences, both parties find themselves situated in a position oddly reminiscent of that period. The economy remains healthy, the stock market thrives, and employment levels appear stable. Just like 1998, the ratings-driven media continues to panic over White House revelations while foreign policy crises loom.
Back then, it was U.S. embassy bombings and the rise of al-Qaeda. Today, it’s North Korea’s nuclear proliferation, tension in the Middle East driven by Saudi Arabia and Iran, Ukraine’s precarious position with Russia, and China’s rising power. All these remind us that the year will deliver unexpected events and political developments. They also show that revisiting 1998 presents a worthy history lesson of one party’s hubris and another president’s resiliency.
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I started reading Nikolai Kropotkin's anarchist theories recently. His theories were popular in Europe in the period between the 1848 revolution in France and the 1871 revolution. Before Marx/ Engels and before Lenin and Trotsky. His theories competed with Marxist thought, but Marxism won out eventually. Kropotkin felt that any form of government, be it democracy or socialist or communist, required a certain level of bureaucracy - depending on the type of government, more that others. This pulled resources from people in the form of taxes that could be better used by them to manage their own communities at the local level.
Of course, we'll never know how his theories would have worked, but it's interesting that people such as Dorothy Day who helped found the Catholic Worker movement and also established shelters in New York and across the county, along with farms to help the homeless, and cited Kropotkin as a significant influence.
Kropotkin's theories are making a comeback over 150 years later as other forms of government have been found wanting
Of course, we'll never know how his theories would have worked, but it's interesting that people such as Dorothy Day who helped found the Catholic Worker movement and also established shelters in New York and across the county, along with farms to help the homeless, and cited Kropotkin as a significant influence.
Kropotkin's theories are making a comeback over 150 years later as other forms of government have been found wanting
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Freakouter 1: "I hear Kropotkin's theories are making a comeback."
Freakouter 2: "The same theories that competed with Marxist thought?"
Freakouter 1: "Yeah, stuff like bureaucracies pull resources in the form of taxes that could be better used at the local level."
Freakouter 2: "That's crazy talk!"
Freakouter 1: "Of course it is. Well, coffee break's over. Let's get back to work shall we?"
Freakouter 2: "Righto!"
TRUMP IS HITLER! RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA! IMPEACH 45! RESIST RESIST RESIST
Freakouter 2: "The same theories that competed with Marxist thought?"
Freakouter 1: "Yeah, stuff like bureaucracies pull resources in the form of taxes that could be better used at the local level."
Freakouter 2: "That's crazy talk!"
Freakouter 1: "Of course it is. Well, coffee break's over. Let's get back to work shall we?"
Freakouter 2: "Righto!"
TRUMP IS HITLER! RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA! IMPEACH 45! RESIST RESIST RESIST
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Re: And the freak-out continues
Not freaking out Riddick - just like comparative government theory.......
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Hey, who doesn't?
![Mr. Green :mrgreen:](./images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
Of course Marxists would say there's no comparison...
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Everything Woke turns to