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Post by tiffany » 04-16-2006 11:06 AM

Ninerism wrote: imagined it.

as if they don't really care about our Federal immigration laws?!

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You are right Niner, they don't care!

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Post by Cherry Kelly » 04-16-2006 11:17 AM

remember -- they think they still own most of the southern states and areas...

so its THEIR laws - they don't give a (blank) about OUR laws. They think we OWE them. We are to provide freebies - we are to change our ways to their ways....

and its not going to stop until "we the people" wake up and "fight back".... unfortunately because no one else can do the job required.

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Post by lunacat » 04-17-2006 12:48 AM

Cherry Kelly wrote:

so its THEIR laws - they don't give a (blank) about OUR laws. They think we OWE them. We are to provide freebies - we are to change our ways to their ways....


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Like a shotgun marriage without a prenup...

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Post by Cherry Kelly » 04-17-2006 10:41 AM

lunacat -- thats one way of putting it. BUT listening to local radio and some other places and hearing some of these illegals and their mindset -- ya... pretty sad.

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How To Destroy
America - Part 2
By Frosty Wooldridge
4-17-6

Three years ago, I attended an immigration-overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by top leaders concerned about the immigration invasion. Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm, Tom Tancredo, Dr. John Tanton, Dan Stein, Terry Anderson, Bonnie Eggle, Peter Gadiel, Victor Davis Hansen and other speakers walked to the podium.

America still bled from the wounds of 9/11. However, new hemorrhaging in-bled into the United States with the Time Magazine report, "Who Left the Door Open?" showing three million illegal aliens crashing our borders annually. "The numbers of illegal aliens flooding into the U.S. annually totals three million-enough to fill 22,000 Boeing 737-700 airliners or 60 flights every day of the year."

In the last two weeks, Mexico's invasion of America exhibited new dimensions with millions of illegals openly defying U.S. laws by parading in our streets. Even the façade of Homeland Security illustrates Chertoff and Bush with their pants down around their ankles. In one widely distributed Internet picture, you can see Bush waving a Mexican flag while he walks with a Mexican girl toward school. Any American can see the invasion advances with the Mexican flag raging across the American landscape.

As I said, during the conference, speaker after speaker astounded the audience with facts on how fast the present administration and Congress continue dismantling the American Dream for average citizens. Former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a speech on 'How to Destroy America'. The audience sat spellbound by the eight methods for destruction of the United States.

Lamm said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall, and that, "An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide."

"Here is how they destroyed their countries," Lamm said. "First, turn America into a bilingual or multi lingual and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way, "The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension and tragedy. Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon-all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons and Corsicans."

Look around you at the hundreds of Spanish speaking radio and TV shows invading our airwaves. Look around at the 56 Mexican consulates aiding and abetting illegal aliens to imbed themselves in our country. Look at the audacity of their lawlessness in our streets with forged documents, driving drunk with no insurance, spreading diseases like tuberculosis and openly laughing at our laws. If you think France's problems with legal Muslim immigrants rioting were terrible, just wait until our illegal Mexican aliens riot, or worse, start voting! Fellow Americans, we're in some deep doodoo!

Lamm continued on how to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their own culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences! I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds."

Anyone can see that Los Angeles, California or Miami, Florida are no longer American cities. The current mayor of Los Angeles is a Mexican and member of La Raza and other Mexican separation organizations. Chicago, Houston, Dallas, Chicago, New York, Atlanta, San Francisco and many other cities are not far behind. Immigrants arrive at over four million per year, so fast and so many, that they are not assimilating into the American Dream. However, they are creating the American Nightmare for Americans. You would be insulted if you spoke English and you're not welcome in immigrant enclaves of those cities. Multiculturalism fractures America and dismembers with increasing speed.

"We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the ATLANTIC MONTHLY recently: "The apparent success of our own multi-ethnic and multi-cultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance, but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together."

Whether you look at the French or Sydney riots a few months back, they represented ethnic conflict brought on by too many immigrants unable and unwilling to assimilate into the host culture. Therefore, they destroy it at every juncture. Great Britain is not far behind as their ethnic tensions grow and separate their two conflicting camps: Britons versus the Muslim immigrants. Tolerance fails with added numbers of competing and intolerant groups such as millions of Mexicans in America who feel we stole the four Border States away from them in 1848. What happens when millions of Mexicans advocate for La Raza, which advocates, "For the Hispanic race, everything; anyone outside the race, nothing!" No anti-discrimination laws can withstand millions who promote Mexican racism and back it up with overwhelming numbers.

Lamm added, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural sub-groups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

In Los Angeles, the tip of this deadly Mexican invasion manifests itself with the massive 20,000 member "18th
Street Gang", MS 13 gangs and sheer lawlessness running rampant-much like Mexico where corruption is a mechanism by which Third World countries operate. With millions impregnated into our country, we fall into the same lawless state. Last month, the Rocky Mountain News reported that Denver, Colorado is now the "Drug Hub of the West" and "People Smuggling Center". We create a subclass of unassimilated, angry people.

"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50 percent dropout rate from high school."

Last year, in Denver, Colorado, 65 percent of the potential graduating class either flunked out or dropped out. Over 30,000 illegal alien kids speaking 40 languages caused one in five teachers to quit or transfer out of Denver Public Schools. This crisis manifests itself again this year in Denver where Tina Griego, an advocate for illegal immigration and employed by the Rocky Mountain News reported, "North High School teachers estimate only half the student body of 1,400 regularly attend classes."

That school system suffers hundreds of illegal alien kids who can't speak English and arrive from functionally illiterate parents. They can't perform academically because their parents have no interest or background in viable educational processes. Those kids think a remote control takes the place of homework. A similar crisis happens from California to Georgia and from Chicago to Miami.

However, democracy requires four disciplines to flourish while remaining viable. It requires an educated population that possesses a similar moral and ethical foundation while speaking the same language. The United States, via massive immigration, is losing all four aspects. It cannot and will not remain viable much longer with the disruption of its educational systems. Conflicting languages bring a whole new can of worms to the crisis.

"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology'. I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

While a few elites in high places make billions of dollars, they corrupt America's rule of law and undermine the Middle Class. If you'll notice-Third World countries DO NOT sustain a Middle Class. They suffer a high class and a low class. America moves in that direction every day of this immigrant invasion.

"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other-that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks: "The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet, all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factorslocal patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'unum, we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

"White Europeans go back to your own continent; this is our land," screamed demonstrators in Los Angeles in the last few weeks. "You white gringo devils don't belong on our land."

The outright racism and hate toward whites in Los Angeles exemplifies Lamm's predictions. Point blank reality: LA is no longer an American city. Neither is Miami. Every city in America is under assault. Corruption reigns supreme along with growing Third World Momentum. Mexico's Vicente Fox dictates his wishes in our country while his minions send back $20 billion annually to fill his corrupt coffers.

Lamm continued, "Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits-make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity'. I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th
century-that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate."

At every juncture today, anti-American groups like La Raza, MALDEF, LULAC, and MECHA, which are pro illegal alien Mexican groups on U.S. soil--scream 'racism' if anyone protests illegal migration. You have to wonder what will happen when they gain majority populations. Will they allow us to use the word 'racism' as they promote their agenda of 'Reconquista of Aztlan' while they break our country into pieces? At 9.2 million Mexican invaders transplanted onto U.S. soil, they are well on their way.

"Having made America a bilingual--bicultural country, having established multiculturalism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology'," Lamm said. "I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: "That because immigration has been good for America, it must ALWAYS be good. I would make every individual immigrant sympatric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. A profound silence swept over the room. Finally, he said, "Lastly, I would censor Victor Davis Hansen's book "MEXIFORNIA." His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause. A chilling apprehension rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages rip the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation, terror, horse tripping, cock fighting, dog fighting and worse--grow as we celebrate 'diversity'. American jobs vanish into the Third World as greedy corporations create a Third World in America-take note of California and other states-to date, 20 million illegal aliens and growing, fast.

If you look around you, our president and this Congress dismantle America by design. Call it 'multi-culturalism' or 'diversity' or 'one world government' or 'globalism'. In the end, it will mean the finish of the United States of America as a free, cohesive, sustainable and functioning society.

George Orwell wrote about it in his book, "1984". In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength." Our nation and the future of this great republic are deeply in trouble and worsening fast. An invasion of diseases, clashing cultures, languages, balkanization, mounting environmental dilemmas accelerate by the day. If this immigration monster isn't stopped soon, it will rage across the United States like the LA demonstrations that WILL turn violent given more time, and destroy everything in their path, especially the American Dream.

Finally, immigrants drive our population into doubling within the next 60 years to over 600 million people. Remember this--the line never ends as the world grows by 85 million desperate people annually.

"Can you think of any problem in any area of human endeavor on any scale, from microscopic to global, whose long-term solution is in any demonstrable way--aided, assisted, or advanced by further increases in population, locally, nationally or globally?" Dr. Albert Bartlett

If you as an American citizen continue standing by saying nothing, this country falls to the count. Everything you work and hope for-will not be there for your children. It's time for your participation. If this Congress passes a guest-worker amnesty program, the invasion accelerates beyond your wildest nightmare!

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Post by tiffany » 04-17-2006 03:00 PM

from above post:

"If you as an American citizen continue standing by saying nothing, this country falls to the count. Everything you work and hope for-will not be there for your children. It's time for your participation. If this Congress passes a guest-worker amnesty program, the invasion accelerates beyond your wildest nightmare!"

A nightmare indeed!

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Post by HB3 » 04-17-2006 03:20 PM

If the American people decided collectively to stop it, they could. It's as simple as that.

Americans used to have a reputation for notorious competency. That capacity is still there. It can be reawakened. Whether it will be or not is another story altogether. Frosty's article points out some stumbling blocks. The psychological warfare has been insidious and to an extent spectacularly successful.

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Post by Dale O Sea » 04-17-2006 03:41 PM

HB3, when you cut and paste an article, especially one so long as the one above, could you please leave a link and your source info in the post? It's even better to only post an excerpt or two and a link. Thanks
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Post by HB3 » 04-17-2006 04:00 PM

Hey, look, even Thom Hartmann gets it! (except for the "racist" bugaboo -- you get your Democrat registration card taken away if you can't reflexively scream "racist!")

And on Common Dreams no less!

This is particularly noteworthy for the reminder that progressive poster boy Cesar Chavez was stridently opposed to illegal immigration.

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0329-21.htm

Today's Immigration Battle - Corporatists vs. Racists (and Labor is Left Behind)
by Thom Hartmann

The corporatist Republicans ("amnesty!") are fighting with the racist Republicans ("fence!"), and it provides an opportunity for progressives to step forward with a clear solution to the immigration problem facing America.

Both the corporatists and the racists are fond of the mantra, "There are some jobs Americans won't do." It's a lie.

Americans will do virtually any job if they're paid a decent wage. This isn't about immigration - it's about economics. Industry and agriculture won't collapse without illegal labor, but the middle class is being crushed by it.

The reason why thirty years ago United Farm Workers' Union (UFW) founder Caesar Chávez fought against illegal immigration, and the UFW turned in illegals during his tenure as president, was because Chávez, like progressives since the 1870s, understood the simple reality that labor rises and falls in price as a function of availability.

As Wikipedia notes: "In 1969, Chávez and members of the UFW marched through the Imperial and Coachella Valley to the border of Mexico to protest growers' use of illegal aliens as temporary replacement workers during a strike. Joining him on the march were both the Reverend Ralph Abernathy and U.S. Senator Walter Mondale. Chávez and the UFW would often report suspected illegal aliens who served as temporary replacement workers as well as who refused to unionize to the INS."

Working Americans have always known this simple equation: More workers, lower wages. Fewer workers, higher wages.

Progressives fought - and many lost their lives in the battle - to limit the pool of "labor hours" available to the Robber Barons from the 1870s through the 1930s and thus created the modern middle class. They limited labor-hours by pushing for the 50-hour week and the 10-hour day (and then later the 40-hour week and the 8-hour day). They limited labor-hours by pushing for laws against child labor (which competed with adult labor). They limited labor-hours by working for passage of the 1935 Wagner Act that provided for union shops.

And they limited labor-hours by supporting laws that would regulate immigration into the United States to a small enough flow that it wouldn't dilute the unionized labor pool. As Wikipedia notes: "The first laws creating a quota for immigrants were passed in the 1920s, in response to a sense that the country could no longer absorb large numbers of unskilled workers, despite pleas by big business that it wanted the new workers."

Do a little math. The Bureau of Labor Statistics says there are 7.6 million unemployed Americans right now. Another 1.5 million Americans are no longer counted because they've become "long term" or "discouraged" unemployed workers. And although various groups have different ways of measuring it, most agree that at least another five to ten million Americans are either working part-time when they want to work full-time, or are "underemployed," doing jobs below their level of training, education, or experience. That's between eight and twenty million un- and under-employed Americans, many unable to find above-poverty-level work.

At the same time, there are between seven and fifteen million working illegal immigrants diluting our labor pool.

If illegal immigrants could no longer work, unions would flourish, the minimum wage would rise, and oligarchic nations to our south would have to confront and fix their corrupt ways.
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Post by HB3 » 04-17-2006 04:08 PM

Of course, Hartmann's a "gringo," so come the revolution, he knows he'll be "dealt with," progressive politics or no. Primordial racial consciousness stirring, Thom?

At the very least, it points up the ethical difficulty for the comtemporary leftist: caught between the "rock" of "racism" and the "hard place" of union sympathy.
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Post by HB3 » 04-17-2006 10:29 PM

This article's astounding....well worth reading the whole thing....

U.S. employers send for immigrants
Julie Watson and Olga R. Rodriguez
Associated Press
Apr. 16, 2006 12:00 AM
SASABE, Mexico - When Pedro Lopez Vazquez crossed illegally into the United States last week, he was not heading north to look for a job. He already had one.

His future employer even paid $1,000 for a smuggler to help Vazquez make his way from the central Mexican city of Puebla to Aspen, Colo.

"We're going to Colorado to work in carpentry because we have a friend who was going to give us a job," Vazquez said.

Vazquez, 41, was interviewed along the Arizona border after being deported twice by the U.S. Border Patrol. He said he would keep trying until he got to Aspen.

His story is not unusual. A growing number of U.S. employers and migrants are tapping into an underground employment network that matches one with the other, often before the migrants leave home.

"It continues to become clear who controls immigration. It's not governments, but rather the market," said Jorge Santibanez, director of the Tijuana-based think tank Colegio de la Frontera Norte.

As debate over immigration heats up in the United States, more U.S. companies in need of cheap labor are turning to undocumented employees to recruit friends and relatives back home, and to smugglers to find job seekers.

Darcy Tromanhauser, of the non-profit law project Nebraska Appleseed, said companies in need of workers rely on the networks to "pass along the information more effectively than billboards."

"It started out more explicitly, where (meatpacking) companies used to have buses to transport people to come up, and they would advertise directly in Mexico," she said. "Now I think that happens more informally."

At the same time, it has become less risky for companies to recruit undocumented migrants. Since the Sept. 11 attacks, U.S. prosecution of employers who hire such workers has dwindled to a trickle as the government puts its resources toward national security.

The few cases that are prosecuted, however, highlight how lucrative a business recruiting undocumented workers has become. In one case, a single smuggler allegedly earned $900,000 over 15 months placing 6,000 migrants in jobs at Chinese restaurants across the upper Midwest.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepubli ... s0416.html

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Post by Cherry Kelly » 04-18-2006 10:04 AM

Its long past time to put National Security into this illegal situation. AND as one article I posted - local law enforcement groups across the USA are starting to take action. Unfortunately too many illegals are being allowed to bond out - and they disappear back into some other area.

SO how do we stop that? No bonds allowed for illegals? Then we get yelled at about holding someone in jail without --- yadda yadda. (catch 22 again)

STOP allowing money orders to go to Mexico? Well what about legit purchase types? well hmmm -- catch 22?

Problems are everywhere regarding this -- and yes its time for people to become involved. IF you are aware of illegals - get off your duff and report them.

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HB3 wrote: How To Destroy
America - Part 2
By Frosty Wooldridge
4-17-6

Three years ago, I attended an immigration-overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by top leaders concerned about the immigration invasion. Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm, Tom Tancredo, Dr. John Tanton, Dan Stein, Terry Anderson, Bonnie Eggle, Peter Gadiel, Victor Davis Hansen and other speakers walked to the podium.

America still bled from the wounds of 9/11. However, new hemorrhaging in-bled into the United States with the Time Magazine report, "Who Left the Door Open?" showing three million illegal aliens crashing our borders annually. "The numbers of illegal aliens flooding into the U.S. annually totals three million-enough to fill 22,000 Boeing 737-700 airliners or 60 flights every day of the year."

In the last two weeks, Mexico's invasion of America exhibited new dimensions with millions of illegals openly defying U.S. laws by parading in our streets. Even the façade of Homeland Security illustrates Chertoff and Bush with their pants down around their ankles. In one widely distributed Internet picture, you can see Bush waving a Mexican flag while he walks with a Mexican girl toward school. Any American can see the invasion advances with the Mexican flag raging across the American landscape.

As I said, during the conference, speaker after speaker astounded the audience with facts on how fast the present administration and Congress continue dismantling the American Dream for average citizens. Former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a speech on 'How to Destroy America'. The audience sat spellbound by the eight methods for destruction of the United States.

Lamm said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall, and that, "An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide."

"Here is how they destroyed their countries," Lamm said. "First, turn America into a bilingual or multi lingual and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way, "The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension and tragedy. Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon-all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons and Corsicans."

Look around you at the hundreds of Spanish speaking radio and TV shows invading our airwaves. Look around at the 56 Mexican consulates aiding and abetting illegal aliens to imbed themselves in our country. Look at the audacity of their lawlessness in our streets with forged documents, driving drunk with no insurance, spreading diseases like tuberculosis and openly laughing at our laws. If you think France's problems with legal Muslim immigrants rioting were terrible, just wait until our illegal Mexican aliens riot, or worse, start voting! Fellow Americans, we're in some deep doodoo!

Lamm continued on how to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their own culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences! I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds."

Anyone can see that Los Angeles, California or Miami, Florida are no longer American cities. The current mayor of Los Angeles is a Mexican and member of La Raza and other Mexican separation organizations. Chicago, Houston, Dallas, Chicago, New York, Atlanta, San Francisco and many other cities are not far behind. Immigrants arrive at over four million per year, so fast and so many, that they are not assimilating into the American Dream. However, they are creating the American Nightmare for Americans. You would be insulted if you spoke English and you're not welcome in immigrant enclaves of those cities. Multiculturalism fractures America and dismembers with increasing speed.

"We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the ATLANTIC MONTHLY recently: "The apparent success of our own multi-ethnic and multi-cultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance, but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together."

Whether you look at the French or Sydney riots a few months back, they represented ethnic conflict brought on by too many immigrants unable and unwilling to assimilate into the host culture. Therefore, they destroy it at every juncture. Great Britain is not far behind as their ethnic tensions grow and separate their two conflicting camps: Britons versus the Muslim immigrants. Tolerance fails with added numbers of competing and intolerant groups such as millions of Mexicans in America who feel we stole the four Border States away from them in 1848. What happens when millions of Mexicans advocate for La Raza, which advocates, "For the Hispanic race, everything; anyone outside the race, nothing!" No anti-discrimination laws can withstand millions who promote Mexican racism and back it up with overwhelming numbers.

Lamm added, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural sub-groups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

In Los Angeles, the tip of this deadly Mexican invasion manifests itself with the massive 20,000 member "18th
Street Gang", MS 13 gangs and sheer lawlessness running rampant-much like Mexico where corruption is a mechanism by which Third World countries operate. With millions impregnated into our country, we fall into the same lawless state. Last month, the Rocky Mountain News reported that Denver, Colorado is now the "Drug Hub of the West" and "People Smuggling Center". We create a subclass of unassimilated, angry people.

"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50 percent dropout rate from high school."

Last year, in Denver, Colorado, 65 percent of the potential graduating class either flunked out or dropped out. Over 30,000 illegal alien kids speaking 40 languages caused one in five teachers to quit or transfer out of Denver Public Schools. This crisis manifests itself again this year in Denver where Tina Griego, an advocate for illegal immigration and employed by the Rocky Mountain News reported, "North High School teachers estimate only half the student body of 1,400 regularly attend classes."

That school system suffers hundreds of illegal alien kids who can't speak English and arrive from functionally illiterate parents. They can't perform academically because their parents have no interest or background in viable educational processes. Those kids think a remote control takes the place of homework. A similar crisis happens from California to Georgia and from Chicago to Miami.

However, democracy requires four disciplines to flourish while remaining viable. It requires an educated population that possesses a similar moral and ethical foundation while speaking the same language. The United States, via massive immigration, is losing all four aspects. It cannot and will not remain viable much longer with the disruption of its educational systems. Conflicting languages bring a whole new can of worms to the crisis.

"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology'. I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

While a few elites in high places make billions of dollars, they corrupt America's rule of law and undermine the Middle Class. If you'll notice-Third World countries DO NOT sustain a Middle Class. They suffer a high class and a low class. America moves in that direction every day of this immigrant invasion.

"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other-that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together.



"White Europeans go back to your own continent; this is our land," screamed demonstrators in Los Angeles in the last few weeks. "You white gringo devils don't belong on our land."

The outright racism and hate toward whites in Los Angeles exemplifies Lamm's predictions. Point blank reality: LA is no longer an American city. Neither is Miami. Every city in America is under assault. Corruption reigns supreme along with growing Third World Momentum. Mexico's Vicente Fox dictates his wishes in our country while his minions send back billion annually to fill his corrupt coffers.

Lamm continued, "Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits-make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity'. I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th
century-that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate."


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In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. A profound silence swept over the room. Finally, he said, "Lastly, I would censor Victor Davis Hansen's book "MEXIFORNIA." His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. "

There was no applause. A chilling apprehension rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every discussion is being suppressed.

If you look around you, our president and this Congress dismantle America by design. Call it 'multi-culturalism' or 'diversity' or 'one world government' or 'globalism'. In the end, it will mean the finish of the United States of America as a free, cohesive, sustainable and functioning society.
Our nation and the future of this great republic are deeply in trouble and worsening fast. An invasion of diseases, clashing cultures, languages, balkanization, mounting environmental dilemmas accelerate by the day. If this immigration monster isn't stopped soon, it will rage across the United States like the LA demonstrations that WILL turn violent given more time, and destroy everything in their path, especially the American Dream.

Finally, immigrants drive our population into doubling within the next 60 years to over 600 million people. Remember this--the line never ends as the world grows by 85 million desperate people annually.


If you as an American citizen continue standing by saying nothing, this country falls to the count. Everything you work and hope for-will not be there for your children. It's time for your participation. If this Congress passes a guest-worker amnesty program, the invasion accelerates beyond your wildest nightmare!


HB3, you have provided us another powerful article that all American citizens ought to take to heart.

I hated to think of illegal immigrants and illegal immigration as being 'an invasion', and yet, profoundly disturbing, it is exactly that, an invasion of millions of non-invited, non-documented, non-legal forces who have come here without any respect for our immigration laws.

The more I hear TOM TANCREDO speak out of Denver, Colorado, the more I feel we need someone like him, BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLES, to represent our common cause as AMERICAN CITIZENS -- the illegal immigration issues need not and ought not become a partisan issue.

We see here, the common voices of different party affiliation's, all of whom are supporting the idea that as a nation, we ought to have our borders protected, and ought to be able to define WHO WILL BE INVITED HERE, and who will be allowed to remain here as guest-workers, and ALL OF THE OTHERS WHO ARE HERE ILLEGALLY ought to be sent back -- get the trains ready, and send them down to Tijuana, and in Texas, too.

Seriously, the last straw for me has been witnessing the tens of thousands of school-age children who are being used to foment and agitate on behalf of their adult parents who are likely here illegally. And now they speak of not only demonstrating on behalf of their Reconguista cause, but are here to defile respect for our national immigration laws, and moreover, are demanding that they alone shall define the argument for-and-against illegal immigration! It's intolerable, since they do not care that their own parents have come here without legal documents -- and they believe that it is fine for them to express their own racism in the form of accusations against legal citizenship, accusing American citizens of being racist and zenophobic.

From what we have seen with the recent fist-raising behavior of Mayor Villaraigosa, and other elected officials, we should know that they have already drawn the lines in the sand, and do not care to respect our own national identity -- shame on him! And shame on his side-kick, cardinal looney bird, full of baloney. Moreover, some of those elected officials are expressing outrageous politics of Reconquista, as if they wish to define all of America's cultural values.

Let Mayor Villaraigosa and all the rest go to MEXICO and try to revolutionize that nation toward economic and social equality!

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Post by Ninerism » 04-18-2006 11:41 AM

Readers and Pirates, basically the illegal immigration problem remains at the most basic element, the JOBS ISSUE.

If all employers are required to ascertain citizenship prior to hiring, that will basically undermine most job markets here.

I have driven from Santa Barbara, to Los Angeles, to Riverside, to Hemet, to the enormous San Fernando Valley, to Palmdale and Lancaster, and many other places/counties, and the problem persists that the hiring of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS mostly from MEXICO is widely pervasive, especially seen in the HOUSING INDUSTRY.

I have gone to sites where new building/construction is on-going, especially on weekends, Sundays, and have seen MEXICAN workers doing work. There is no doubt that these types of jobs are being given to ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS from MEXICO! Cities, too, hire them for tree trimming, street maintenance, and all sorts of JOBS which those advocating illegal immigration state that Americans refuse to do! That's all non-sense! I clean my own toilets, too!

REMOVE THE JOB AVAILABILITY, such as at DENVER, and elsewhere, and when those JOB MARKETS disappear, we can begin to restore a national unity -- and stop illegal immigration mostly from MEXICO. MEXICO is the nation most problematic at this time.

It's not enough to simply close our borders; and I would prefer to see our money better spent on providing housing for the homeless here, rather than constructing huge fences on the borders!

SEND 'EM HOME! Yes, give them one-way tickets on buses and trains, and send those MILLIONS OF HORDES OF ILLEGALS HOME TO MEXICO WHERE THEY CAME FROM, and make them pay for their rides, too!

This is not about racism nor zenophobia, it is about the intolerance and non-respect of ILLEGALS from MEXICO FLOODING into our nation at this time -- and its about STOPPING THE NEW WORLD ORDER from destroying our Middle Class in the United States.
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