So, how mad are you?
Mexico's War On America
By Frosty Wooldridge
In 1836, legends Davy Crockett, Jim Bowie and William Travis, along with 180 fearless men, fought Santa Anna’s two thousand Mexican troops at the Alamo in San Antonio, Texas. No contest! Santa Anna killed every last one of those brave men. Six weeks later, with a cry of “Remember the Alamo”, Texans beat back the Mexican army and established Texas as a republic and later, part of the United States of America.
Today, Mexico’s declaration of war on America moves with quickening speed. Their modern day general known as President Vicente Fox is not content with retaking Texas. He invades all American states.
As a premier, many of you watch the History Channel with WWII footage showing Germans and their tanks charging into Poland. You watched their tanks crush the French.
Did any of you watch the 100,000 illegal Mexicans and others storm Chicago, Illinois March 10, 2006? How many Mexican insurgents stand on American soil? At last count, in excess of 9,000,000 illegal Mexicans! It’s the largest invasion force without firing a shot EVER on American soil.
This invasion is encouraged, abetted and organized by the Mexican state and supported by all citizens in Mexican society. Fox provides his ‘troops’ with maps, water, provisions and aid to invade America’s border.
What are the desires of Mexico? Lawrence Auster, in his “The Second Mexican War” February 17, 2006, wrote, “In orchestrating this war on America, the Mexican state represents the desires of the Mexican people as a whole:
Political revanchism—to regain control of the territories lost to the U.S. in 1848, thus avenging themselves for the humiliation they feel they suffered at our hands for the last century and a half; In effect, Mexico is colonizing the United States.
Cultural imperialism—to expand the Mexican culture and Spanish language into North America. They destroy English as America’s language.
Economic parasitism—to maintain and increase the flow of $20 billion dollars that Mexicans in the U.S. send back to their relatives at home every year, a major factor keeping the chronically troubled Mexican economy afloat and the corrupt Mexican system cocooned its status quo.” They use us against ourselves to benefit themselves.
Americans watch a peaceful invasion and the most profound colonization in modern history. Carlos de Mola for Mexico’s Excelsior Newspaper said, “You cannot give me a similar example of such a large migratory wave of an ant-like multitude, stubborn, unarmed and carried on in the face of the most powerful and best-armed nation on earth…it is slowly returning the southwestern U.S. to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot nor requiring the least diplomatic action, by means of a steady, spontaneous and uninterrupted occupation.”
What you’re watching—and most Americans only keep watching without a whimper—the takeover of America by a foreign country by colonization.
One of Fox’s cabinet officers, Juan Hernandez said, “The Mexican population is 100 million and 23 million who live in the United States.”
Heather MacDonald, in the City Journal, Fall 2005, wrote, “Mexico’s five-year development plan in 1995 announced that the ‘Mexican nation extends its border into the United States. The government would strengthen solidarity programs with the Mexican communities abroad by emphasizing their Mexican roots, and supporting literacy programs in Spanish and teaching of the history, values and traditions of Mexico to those Mexicans living in the United States. We are betting the Mexican population in the U.S. will think Mexico first.’”
Not only are they invading America in numbers and language, they financially bleed Americans of jobs, depress wages and send money to Mexico. In time, they will be able to deny authority of American law because they will vote against American laws and/or change them to fit their purposes.
A simple look at what happened in Chicago a week ago portends violent confrontations in the future. We allow the complete surrender of U.S. sovereignty over our immigration policy. Fox loves it as his ‘insurgents’ grow by three million annually on U.S. soil. (source: Time Magazine, September 20, 2004, America’s Broken Borders)
Auster wrote, “Hitler pursed ‘Anschluss’, the joining together of the Germans in Austria with the Germans in Germany leading the official annexation of Austria to Germany. Mexico’s equivalent is ‘acercamiento’ which means ‘warmer relations’ to act as a unified block to advance Mexico’s interests inside the U.S. and…weakening of U.S. immigration law. Thus, the Mexican government is using the Mexican U.S. population as a fifth column.”
As you can see, we allow 56 Mexican consulates in major cities throughout America to foster this invasion with help and guidance inside the belly of America. Those consulates distribute ‘Guia del Migrante Mexicano’ which is a guide for illegals to further imbed themselves into America without getting caught.
Auster wrote, “It has been proposed that Mexicans in the U.S. vote in Mexican elections. California Mexicans would have seats in the Mexican Congress, specifically representing Mexicans residing in that state. One of Mexico’s three major parties, the PRD, urges the designation of the entire United States as the sixth Mexican electoral district.”
Winston Churchill wrote in his “Follies of the Victors,” that the Germans were given a ‘motive’ for revenge; later, an opportunity to strike back. By the same stroke of history, the U.S. gave Mexico a ‘motive’ in 1848, and today, an ‘opportunity’ by allowing mass migration.
In other words, we gave Fox this opportunity; he took it and now General Fox dictates terms to us. Who are his generals? Specifically--U.S. Congressman Joe Baca in California works for ‘Reconquista de Aztlan’ along with Mayor Villaraigosa of Los Angeles, U.S. Congressman Chris Cannon of Utah and dozens of others on U.S. soil. Not only that, he can count on an American foot soldier George Bush and most of the U.S. Congress. Fox counts on the silence of U.S. governors in all 50 states. Who are his foot soldiers? Nine million Mexicans spread across 49 states and growing!
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If that guest worker program passes this month, you're looking at adding 60 million Mexicans to American within 10 years. Over 18 million will be Spanish speaking children flooding our schools. Yes, if even half those 12 million illegal Mexicans bring in six million wives under Specter’s or Kennedy’s guest worker programs, those wives bring at least three children each. Thus, you're looking at 18 million more kids within a heartbeat in time—hitting our schools. If even half the single Mexicans have one child each in ten years, you’re talking six million more kids. This is war and colonization by any other names.
Americans, what are you going to do about it? All I can say is, “Remember the Alamo!”
MEXICO'S WAR ON AMERICA! How mad are you?
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MEXICO'S WAR ON AMERICA! How mad are you?
“There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.
The other is as though everything is a miracle." ~ Albert Einstein ~
The other is as though everything is a miracle." ~ Albert Einstein ~
MAD welcome to our section of the FANTASTIC FORUM.
You may not realize it, however, we pirates and others have been addressing the illegal migration issues for many years here.
Problems have only grown worse regarding illegal immigration due to the inattentiveness of our Congress, and our entire judicial system; and many of us believe that via concerted efforts of our corporations, we have allowed illegal immigration from Mexico to fester without any real proper recourse, and now we find ourselves on the precipice, as the article you quoted states we will soon have at least another EIGHTEEN MILLION ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS and their off-spring finding their residences in states all over the United States -- what one could conceive or define as a virtual 'army' of invaders or 'occupiers' who are not necessarilly beholden to the United States government, and may not be voting to support our system and primary language of ENGLISH.
First and foremost, without JOBS, illegal immigration from Mexico would have to quickly abate and be reduced by thousands per month, if not tens of thousands of Mexicans as illegal immigrants per year. Our Congress must set and impose strict limits on larger corporations such as WalMart immediately, and then place severe penalties upon other smaller companies which have more than twenty employees, and perhaps even go after other even smaller corporations hiring less than twenty employees.
The local SCHOOLS can impose restriction's on undocumented workers, meaning all Mexican and non-Mexican illegals who are here in violation of our immigration laws. We as an AMERICAN SOCIETY can impose limitation's and restriction's fairly quickly, if we have the will, since we certainly can muster the resources in understanding that our tax system, county and Federal, is supporting and aiding the Mexicans as illegals to feel that they are entitled to have their children schooled in the United States merely because of their occupation of our cities, towns, all across our nation. This may sound radical, however, now that many schools in Los Angeles County, alone, are being 'over-run' by thousands of children who are the off-spring of Mexicans as illegal immigrants, the costs are exploding.
In the city of SANTA ANA, once a premier example of the Fifties and Sixties glorious economic advances, that city had the largest and most beautiful shopping malls and complexes. Now, most are in ruination, or being eliminated. It signifies a deeper problem now on-going, as SANTA ANA, a large city, now has the highest percentage of population -- most as represented by Mexicans as illegal immigrants from MEXICO -- who are residing in STATES OF DIRE POVERTY! This economic devolution occurred in the span of only several decades.
Radio stations for decades played the rants of local citizens calling to state that their cities, all across Southern California, were being 'over-run' by illegal immigrants, most of whom are from MEXICO. Some people thought that those callers were doom-sayers, and/or acting "ZENOPHOBIC" and "RACIST" .....while many others saw the handwriting on the wall, and discerned a looming problem which would one day confront illegals against American citizens. That day has come, it is our present-day dilemma.
TO find that our Mayor Villaraigosa has fostered an encouragement of those children runnning wild in the streets, who were ostensibly expressing their indignation's about their parent's plight as illegal immigrants, most of whom are from MEXICO, is an appalling situation, since those children were only being provided a free pass in violation of school statute's, and they were by the tens of thousands, truants!
Moreover, some hundreds of thousands of those tens of thousands of young student demonstrators were actually running wild on several FREEWAYS, and creating hazardous conditions for motorists, and they impeded and STOPPED TRAFFIC for several hours, likely costing the State many millions to police, as well as impeding natural business flow.
Never before in the history of California, has such a huge demonstration occurred in downtown LOS ANGELES -- crowds estimated at approx. HALF-A-MILLION PEOPLE, or larger! Never before in the history of most States in the United States, have we ever seen YOUNG CHILDREN OUT DEMONSTRATING and running wild in the streets calling for 'respecto', while most did not even know why they were allowed to run truant, had no idea what the demonstration's were about.
Multiply this issue by other cities and states which have very large populations of young children who are the off-spring of Mexicans as illegal immigrants, and we can see that this issue could develop into something quite nasty, if not quickly kept in check. It is a fact that in France, young demonstrators were allowed to go wild in the streets in many cities of France, encountering no policing, out of which situation hundreds of cases of arson were not stopped. Will we allow such demostrator's here to get totally out of hand, and perhaps engage in forms of anarchical actions, too, as seen in France?
I hope that is not the case, that we quickly quell what France refused to quickly contain, as we have those in power right now, elements that are desirous of placing an iron fist on our Constitution, and will work toward developing or exploiting reactionary measures to the benefit of those who wish to impose MARTIAL LAW while the BUSHOiLCO regime is in power.
My concerns run to the use of the term 'occupation', since that appears to imply that outside foreign interests have come here to set-up disparate political discourse in order to foment agitation's.
It seems from the recent demonstration's of young children, acting as a block and unified voice (even though not necessarilly coallesced for any specific political objective) some acting at behest of their elder parent's acrimony and discontent in fearing they will be deported, are actually being used for political maneuvers which are serving larger political interests in MEXICO. It's an intolerable situation, since the entire focus is now placed with the demands of those who are here illegally, are here without proper immigration status, and are in violation of our Federal laws of immigration -- and yet they are demanding and openly demonstrating, as if they are victors over our own Federal laws, and they are using their young children to further blur the distinction of laws which are to be observed.
To me this is an indication that we have only begun to see a political movement that is going to further incite divisions and perceptions of what ought to be considered sovereign laws of a sovereign nation -- however, that is not the case, as those immigration laws are being openly challenged by the support of some recently elected, including Mayor Villraigosa!
If he wishes to be mayor of some obscure town or tiny pueblo in MEXICO, then he ought to go there immediately, and not attempt to change our entire societal structure from the steps of City Hall in LOS ANGELES! He was NOT acting in favor our our AMERICAN LAWS -- and he ought to be challenged.
His actions were those of one who is supporting revolutionary discourse, which I find very disturbing. If he represents what is being called RECONQUISTA, or some such political movement from MEXICO to aid and abet illegal immigrants in coming to 'occupy' cities within the United States, his job should be challenged at the FEDERAL level and STATE level, and Governor Arnold ought to send a clear message to Mayor Villraigosa that he ought to act like an AMERICAN CITIZEN, rather than encouraging children to demonstrate against Federal laws of immigration.
The lines appear to be drawn more clearly than ever before, as millions of American citizens are extremely upset at the divisive rhetoric which is being fostered via what only can be called revolutionaries who are not supporting our Federal laws, nor are they interested in promoting ENGLISH as a first language, nor are they interested in keeping America as a sovereign distinct nation.
With an 'occupation', if that be the case, thousands of MEXICANS from MEXICO are acting as revolutionaries, to further political ambitions being fostered by Vincente Fox, and the power elites in MEXICO who are refusing to raise the standards of living for millions of their own citizens ......so they are sent off to find jobs here, and to hell with our immigration laws, they demand 'RESPECTO'!
Those revolutionaries here, as illegal immigrants, are consistently demanding that their ways of living, their lower standards, be inculcated into our system of government and governing. If they wish to crowd into apartments by the dozens, they demand their rights for 'familia'.
If they over-run schools, due to local and city infrastructures over-crowded, they claim that their rights are first and foremost over AMERICAN CITIZEN's rights. Over-crowding of apartments may at first seem a non-issue for most, however, that begins the taxing of buildings and sewer systems which place greater demands on city's infra-structures, and of course, the sheer numbers of children going to local schools which place further demands on limited resources. The over-crowding problems can quickly result in huge apartment complexes being destroyed, unless over-crowding is addressed not as a Mexican cultural way of living, but as a reality that strict limits ought to be imposed for each apartment's square footage AND number of bedrooms. The burdens upon local schools and city services are magnified when cities refuse to impose strict standards on numbers who may occupy apartments AND houses.
Over-crowding issues are also reflected in city's having local services taxed and burdened, such that local hospitals and health clinics and EMERGENCY ROOMS, have had to close their doors for lack of revenues, and being bankrupted by issues mostly related to illegal immigrants from MEXICO. Many EMERGENCY ROOMS in LOS ANGELES COUNTY alone have had to close their doors -- no money is being paid for services rendered, and when children have a sniffle, and there is no affordable health insurance, their concerned parents take them to EMERGENCY ROOMS -- inappropriately, since many health issues are not true emergencies. And so it goes, our standards here are being thoroughly trampled by the abuses of sheer numbers of people who have come to the United States without proper immigrant-status/documentation.
If anyone states that these issues are not relevant to illegal immigration,they simply are being deceptive, or truly do not know the magnitude of the growing problems occurring with our borders left wide-open and non-secured with MEXICO, even if only a fraction of those flooding into our cities are here for purposes of NARCO-trafficking, criminality, vandalism, theft, or even terrorism. Most of those thousands, and tens of thousands, and millions, are here as honest people seeking JOBS -- and JOBS remains the crux of the issue.
If we impose restriction's on JOBS, and impose restriction's on hiring of those who come here illegally, then we can begin to truly stop the "enticing". Moreover, if we begin to SEND SOME illegal immigrants, perhaps several tens of thousands, BACK TO MEXICO, we will be sending a clear message to the corrupted powers in MEXICO, that the United States need not be the relief valve for their own internal economic and political issues which have been mosty to the advantage of the power-elites in MEXICO.
If would-be "revolutionaries" such as Mayor Villaraigosa are so earnest in speaking to those demonstrators and helping "their people", let us hope he applies for mayoral positions in pueblos all over MEXICO, too.
Meanwhile, maybe he will care to read about the Federal laws and statutes which define NON-LEGAL IMMIGRATION? He appeared to go over-board in appealing to those thousands of children, if not those half-million demonstrating on behalf of illegal immigrants in LOS ANGELES recently. No easy answer, however, in failing to address true respecto for UNITED STATES' immigration laws, the issue will become further buried in divisive rhetoric and polarized attitudes, in failing to educate illegals about Federal immigration laws, notwithstanding AZTLAN politics and revolutionaries which appears to be promoted from the steps of our City Hall. The failure to underscore the lack of respect for our Federal immigration laws makes AZTLAN a greater prospect, seems to me -- and that could ignite something terribly ugly.
As AMERICAN CITIZENS, do we really want, can we truly afford, an ADDITIONAL SIXTY MILLION people increasing our population from MEXICO, if the proposed law passes? At just an increase of EIGHTEEN MILLION Mexicans speaking Spanish in the United States, that significant population increase will likely occur in a few short years; however, our nation need not be the extension and relief valve for political and economic issues not being addressed by the elites in MEXICO. It's time we put a stop to illegal immigration from MEXICO, and sought stronger border controls.
Ninerism
You may not realize it, however, we pirates and others have been addressing the illegal migration issues for many years here.
Problems have only grown worse regarding illegal immigration due to the inattentiveness of our Congress, and our entire judicial system; and many of us believe that via concerted efforts of our corporations, we have allowed illegal immigration from Mexico to fester without any real proper recourse, and now we find ourselves on the precipice, as the article you quoted states we will soon have at least another EIGHTEEN MILLION ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS and their off-spring finding their residences in states all over the United States -- what one could conceive or define as a virtual 'army' of invaders or 'occupiers' who are not necessarilly beholden to the United States government, and may not be voting to support our system and primary language of ENGLISH.
First and foremost, without JOBS, illegal immigration from Mexico would have to quickly abate and be reduced by thousands per month, if not tens of thousands of Mexicans as illegal immigrants per year. Our Congress must set and impose strict limits on larger corporations such as WalMart immediately, and then place severe penalties upon other smaller companies which have more than twenty employees, and perhaps even go after other even smaller corporations hiring less than twenty employees.
The local SCHOOLS can impose restriction's on undocumented workers, meaning all Mexican and non-Mexican illegals who are here in violation of our immigration laws. We as an AMERICAN SOCIETY can impose limitation's and restriction's fairly quickly, if we have the will, since we certainly can muster the resources in understanding that our tax system, county and Federal, is supporting and aiding the Mexicans as illegals to feel that they are entitled to have their children schooled in the United States merely because of their occupation of our cities, towns, all across our nation. This may sound radical, however, now that many schools in Los Angeles County, alone, are being 'over-run' by thousands of children who are the off-spring of Mexicans as illegal immigrants, the costs are exploding.
In the city of SANTA ANA, once a premier example of the Fifties and Sixties glorious economic advances, that city had the largest and most beautiful shopping malls and complexes. Now, most are in ruination, or being eliminated. It signifies a deeper problem now on-going, as SANTA ANA, a large city, now has the highest percentage of population -- most as represented by Mexicans as illegal immigrants from MEXICO -- who are residing in STATES OF DIRE POVERTY! This economic devolution occurred in the span of only several decades.
Radio stations for decades played the rants of local citizens calling to state that their cities, all across Southern California, were being 'over-run' by illegal immigrants, most of whom are from MEXICO. Some people thought that those callers were doom-sayers, and/or acting "ZENOPHOBIC" and "RACIST" .....while many others saw the handwriting on the wall, and discerned a looming problem which would one day confront illegals against American citizens. That day has come, it is our present-day dilemma.
TO find that our Mayor Villaraigosa has fostered an encouragement of those children runnning wild in the streets, who were ostensibly expressing their indignation's about their parent's plight as illegal immigrants, most of whom are from MEXICO, is an appalling situation, since those children were only being provided a free pass in violation of school statute's, and they were by the tens of thousands, truants!
Moreover, some hundreds of thousands of those tens of thousands of young student demonstrators were actually running wild on several FREEWAYS, and creating hazardous conditions for motorists, and they impeded and STOPPED TRAFFIC for several hours, likely costing the State many millions to police, as well as impeding natural business flow.
Never before in the history of California, has such a huge demonstration occurred in downtown LOS ANGELES -- crowds estimated at approx. HALF-A-MILLION PEOPLE, or larger! Never before in the history of most States in the United States, have we ever seen YOUNG CHILDREN OUT DEMONSTRATING and running wild in the streets calling for 'respecto', while most did not even know why they were allowed to run truant, had no idea what the demonstration's were about.
Multiply this issue by other cities and states which have very large populations of young children who are the off-spring of Mexicans as illegal immigrants, and we can see that this issue could develop into something quite nasty, if not quickly kept in check. It is a fact that in France, young demonstrators were allowed to go wild in the streets in many cities of France, encountering no policing, out of which situation hundreds of cases of arson were not stopped. Will we allow such demostrator's here to get totally out of hand, and perhaps engage in forms of anarchical actions, too, as seen in France?
I hope that is not the case, that we quickly quell what France refused to quickly contain, as we have those in power right now, elements that are desirous of placing an iron fist on our Constitution, and will work toward developing or exploiting reactionary measures to the benefit of those who wish to impose MARTIAL LAW while the BUSHOiLCO regime is in power.
My concerns run to the use of the term 'occupation', since that appears to imply that outside foreign interests have come here to set-up disparate political discourse in order to foment agitation's.
It seems from the recent demonstration's of young children, acting as a block and unified voice (even though not necessarilly coallesced for any specific political objective) some acting at behest of their elder parent's acrimony and discontent in fearing they will be deported, are actually being used for political maneuvers which are serving larger political interests in MEXICO. It's an intolerable situation, since the entire focus is now placed with the demands of those who are here illegally, are here without proper immigration status, and are in violation of our Federal laws of immigration -- and yet they are demanding and openly demonstrating, as if they are victors over our own Federal laws, and they are using their young children to further blur the distinction of laws which are to be observed.
To me this is an indication that we have only begun to see a political movement that is going to further incite divisions and perceptions of what ought to be considered sovereign laws of a sovereign nation -- however, that is not the case, as those immigration laws are being openly challenged by the support of some recently elected, including Mayor Villraigosa!
If he wishes to be mayor of some obscure town or tiny pueblo in MEXICO, then he ought to go there immediately, and not attempt to change our entire societal structure from the steps of City Hall in LOS ANGELES! He was NOT acting in favor our our AMERICAN LAWS -- and he ought to be challenged.
His actions were those of one who is supporting revolutionary discourse, which I find very disturbing. If he represents what is being called RECONQUISTA, or some such political movement from MEXICO to aid and abet illegal immigrants in coming to 'occupy' cities within the United States, his job should be challenged at the FEDERAL level and STATE level, and Governor Arnold ought to send a clear message to Mayor Villraigosa that he ought to act like an AMERICAN CITIZEN, rather than encouraging children to demonstrate against Federal laws of immigration.
The lines appear to be drawn more clearly than ever before, as millions of American citizens are extremely upset at the divisive rhetoric which is being fostered via what only can be called revolutionaries who are not supporting our Federal laws, nor are they interested in promoting ENGLISH as a first language, nor are they interested in keeping America as a sovereign distinct nation.
With an 'occupation', if that be the case, thousands of MEXICANS from MEXICO are acting as revolutionaries, to further political ambitions being fostered by Vincente Fox, and the power elites in MEXICO who are refusing to raise the standards of living for millions of their own citizens ......so they are sent off to find jobs here, and to hell with our immigration laws, they demand 'RESPECTO'!
Those revolutionaries here, as illegal immigrants, are consistently demanding that their ways of living, their lower standards, be inculcated into our system of government and governing. If they wish to crowd into apartments by the dozens, they demand their rights for 'familia'.
If they over-run schools, due to local and city infrastructures over-crowded, they claim that their rights are first and foremost over AMERICAN CITIZEN's rights. Over-crowding of apartments may at first seem a non-issue for most, however, that begins the taxing of buildings and sewer systems which place greater demands on city's infra-structures, and of course, the sheer numbers of children going to local schools which place further demands on limited resources. The over-crowding problems can quickly result in huge apartment complexes being destroyed, unless over-crowding is addressed not as a Mexican cultural way of living, but as a reality that strict limits ought to be imposed for each apartment's square footage AND number of bedrooms. The burdens upon local schools and city services are magnified when cities refuse to impose strict standards on numbers who may occupy apartments AND houses.
Over-crowding issues are also reflected in city's having local services taxed and burdened, such that local hospitals and health clinics and EMERGENCY ROOMS, have had to close their doors for lack of revenues, and being bankrupted by issues mostly related to illegal immigrants from MEXICO. Many EMERGENCY ROOMS in LOS ANGELES COUNTY alone have had to close their doors -- no money is being paid for services rendered, and when children have a sniffle, and there is no affordable health insurance, their concerned parents take them to EMERGENCY ROOMS -- inappropriately, since many health issues are not true emergencies. And so it goes, our standards here are being thoroughly trampled by the abuses of sheer numbers of people who have come to the United States without proper immigrant-status/documentation.
If anyone states that these issues are not relevant to illegal immigration,they simply are being deceptive, or truly do not know the magnitude of the growing problems occurring with our borders left wide-open and non-secured with MEXICO, even if only a fraction of those flooding into our cities are here for purposes of NARCO-trafficking, criminality, vandalism, theft, or even terrorism. Most of those thousands, and tens of thousands, and millions, are here as honest people seeking JOBS -- and JOBS remains the crux of the issue.
If we impose restriction's on JOBS, and impose restriction's on hiring of those who come here illegally, then we can begin to truly stop the "enticing". Moreover, if we begin to SEND SOME illegal immigrants, perhaps several tens of thousands, BACK TO MEXICO, we will be sending a clear message to the corrupted powers in MEXICO, that the United States need not be the relief valve for their own internal economic and political issues which have been mosty to the advantage of the power-elites in MEXICO.
If would-be "revolutionaries" such as Mayor Villaraigosa are so earnest in speaking to those demonstrators and helping "their people", let us hope he applies for mayoral positions in pueblos all over MEXICO, too.
Meanwhile, maybe he will care to read about the Federal laws and statutes which define NON-LEGAL IMMIGRATION? He appeared to go over-board in appealing to those thousands of children, if not those half-million demonstrating on behalf of illegal immigrants in LOS ANGELES recently. No easy answer, however, in failing to address true respecto for UNITED STATES' immigration laws, the issue will become further buried in divisive rhetoric and polarized attitudes, in failing to educate illegals about Federal immigration laws, notwithstanding AZTLAN politics and revolutionaries which appears to be promoted from the steps of our City Hall. The failure to underscore the lack of respect for our Federal immigration laws makes AZTLAN a greater prospect, seems to me -- and that could ignite something terribly ugly.
As AMERICAN CITIZENS, do we really want, can we truly afford, an ADDITIONAL SIXTY MILLION people increasing our population from MEXICO, if the proposed law passes? At just an increase of EIGHTEEN MILLION Mexicans speaking Spanish in the United States, that significant population increase will likely occur in a few short years; however, our nation need not be the extension and relief valve for political and economic issues not being addressed by the elites in MEXICO. It's time we put a stop to illegal immigration from MEXICO, and sought stronger border controls.
Ninerism
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I do believe that part of the congress - not sure whether senate or house -- had provisions -- MUST be fluent in English and have a job - and pay a fine and pay back taxes, and this morning - heard it would only apply to those who have been living here five years (with proof of such) - and working -- hmm are they going to then fine the corporations as well? for back taxes owed on these ILLEGALS??
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Thank you, Ninerism,
My visit to "Politics", is to determine what actions, if any we intend to take. I suspect things will get much worst then the demonstrations in France and elswhere with the large numbers of immigrants flooding to European countries. The numbers are much greater in the U.S.
Sure, we are all frustrated, because we are all affected by the lack of enforcements of laws now on the books and the need to
control the borders.
I was in LA, during the riots over Rodney King. It could easily be repeated, all it takes is one incident
I'm concerned.......and frankly, MAD!
My visit to "Politics", is to determine what actions, if any we intend to take. I suspect things will get much worst then the demonstrations in France and elswhere with the large numbers of immigrants flooding to European countries. The numbers are much greater in the U.S.
Sure, we are all frustrated, because we are all affected by the lack of enforcements of laws now on the books and the need to
control the borders.
I was in LA, during the riots over Rodney King. It could easily be repeated, all it takes is one incident
I'm concerned.......and frankly, MAD!
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“There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle.
The other is as though everything is a miracle." ~ Albert Einstein ~
The other is as though everything is a miracle." ~ Albert Einstein ~
It is time --- and long past time --- that the American people and the Mexican people join together to rise up against the fascist ruling class elite. There is enough for all, on either side of the border, provided that the f'ing capitalist pigs disgorge their ill-gotten gains.
As things stand, I am quite sure that Mr. Monopoly and his f'ing capitalist pig friends are laughing their asses off at the current spectacle!
As things stand, I am quite sure that Mr. Monopoly and his f'ing capitalist pig friends are laughing their asses off at the current spectacle!
"Fuggedah about it, Jake --- it's Chinatown!"
The noble workers put on the black coat and tails as soon as they're given a chance. The Revolutionary Purge is indeed good for a period of mass slaughter and social discord, though, if that's what you're interested in.
"Let all the poison in the mud hatch out" is by definition impossible: it's bottomless. But your appreciation for Graves expains a lot. Are you an acolyte of the White Goddess?
Dostoevsky made a good point in "The Devils" -- the revolutionary personality doesn't crave justice; it longs for mayhem.
"Let all the poison in the mud hatch out" is by definition impossible: it's bottomless. But your appreciation for Graves expains a lot. Are you an acolyte of the White Goddess?
Dostoevsky made a good point in "The Devils" -- the revolutionary personality doesn't crave justice; it longs for mayhem.
From MAD's post above
"Did any of you watch the 100,000 illegal Mexicans and others storm Chicago, Illinois March 10, 2006? How many Mexican insurgents stand on American soil? At last count, in excess of 9,000,000 illegal Mexicans! It’s the largest invasion force without firing a shot EVER on American soil.
This invasion is encouraged, abetted and organized by the Mexican state and supported by all citizens in Mexican society. Fox provides his ‘troops’ with maps, water, provisions and aid to invade America’s border.
What are the desires of Mexico? Lawrence Auster, in his “The Second Mexican War” February 17, 2006, wrote, “In orchestrating this war on America, the Mexican state represents the desires of the Mexican people as a whole:
Political revanchism—to regain control of the territories lost to the U.S. in 1848, thus avenging themselves for the humiliation they feel they suffered at our hands for the last century and a half; In effect, Mexico is colonizing the United States. "
SO RIGHT ON!!! Yep that's what their doing....lot more than meets the eye.............
This invasion is encouraged, abetted and organized by the Mexican state and supported by all citizens in Mexican society. Fox provides his ‘troops’ with maps, water, provisions and aid to invade America’s border.
What are the desires of Mexico? Lawrence Auster, in his “The Second Mexican War” February 17, 2006, wrote, “In orchestrating this war on America, the Mexican state represents the desires of the Mexican people as a whole:
Political revanchism—to regain control of the territories lost to the U.S. in 1848, thus avenging themselves for the humiliation they feel they suffered at our hands for the last century and a half; In effect, Mexico is colonizing the United States. "
SO RIGHT ON!!! Yep that's what their doing....lot more than meets the eye.............
The Senate bill is currently deadlocked.
Republicans want to amend the bill to lower the number of temporary visas; Democrats refuse. Therefore, the Republicans are refusing to stop debating to allow for a vote, and the Democrats are refusing all amendment requests.
Hopefully, this spells the end for the Senate amnesty bill.
Republicans want to amend the bill to lower the number of temporary visas; Democrats refuse. Therefore, the Republicans are refusing to stop debating to allow for a vote, and the Democrats are refusing all amendment requests.
Hopefully, this spells the end for the Senate amnesty bill.
And...I can't believe no one's posted this, from the LA TIMES....it's long...but this part is great....
Immigrant Issues Are Personal for Bush
During the 2000 election, Bush previewed a campaign video from ad-maker Lionel Sosa that used emotion-laden themes to woo Latinos.
As he watched, Sosa recalled, Bush’s face lighted up. “How much do you need for this?” Bush asked as the two men sat with Rove in the governor’s mansion in Texas, Sosa said.
Sosa replied that it would take $3 million. According to the ad-maker, Bush then turned to Rove, saying: “Give him five.”
Four years later, Sosa produced a variation of that video for the 2004 campaign that was mailed to Latino voters across the country.
The video includes images that would probably rile those who today are calling for the most restrictive immigration laws. At one point, Bush is shown waving a Mexican flag. The footage was shot, Sosa said, during a Mexican Independence Day parade in San Antonio in 1998, when Bush was running for reelection as governor.
The five-minute video, narrated by Bush, opens with an image of him fishing on his property near Crawford, Texas, as he essentially described millions of Americans who populate his home state as the true foreigners in someone else’s native land.
“About 15 years before the Civil War, much of the American West was northern Mexico,” Bush says in the video. “The people who lived there weren’t called Latinos or Hispanics. They were Mexican citizens, until all that land became part of the United States.
“After that, many of them were treated as foreigners in their own land,” Bush adds.
He says the “Latino spirit” was fueled by “strong conservative values” of family, a strong work ethic, faith in God, patriotism and personal responsibility. “These values are my values,” Bush says. “I live by them, and I lead by them.”
As Bush speaks in the video, the background music—a Latin beat—grows louder. The president is pictured waving the Mexican flag, hugging a Latino woman, and then holding a Latino baby.
from:
http://www.latimes.com/news/printeditio ... -frontpage
Immigrant Issues Are Personal for Bush
During the 2000 election, Bush previewed a campaign video from ad-maker Lionel Sosa that used emotion-laden themes to woo Latinos.
As he watched, Sosa recalled, Bush’s face lighted up. “How much do you need for this?” Bush asked as the two men sat with Rove in the governor’s mansion in Texas, Sosa said.
Sosa replied that it would take $3 million. According to the ad-maker, Bush then turned to Rove, saying: “Give him five.”
Four years later, Sosa produced a variation of that video for the 2004 campaign that was mailed to Latino voters across the country.
The video includes images that would probably rile those who today are calling for the most restrictive immigration laws. At one point, Bush is shown waving a Mexican flag. The footage was shot, Sosa said, during a Mexican Independence Day parade in San Antonio in 1998, when Bush was running for reelection as governor.
The five-minute video, narrated by Bush, opens with an image of him fishing on his property near Crawford, Texas, as he essentially described millions of Americans who populate his home state as the true foreigners in someone else’s native land.
“About 15 years before the Civil War, much of the American West was northern Mexico,” Bush says in the video. “The people who lived there weren’t called Latinos or Hispanics. They were Mexican citizens, until all that land became part of the United States.
“After that, many of them were treated as foreigners in their own land,” Bush adds.
He says the “Latino spirit” was fueled by “strong conservative values” of family, a strong work ethic, faith in God, patriotism and personal responsibility. “These values are my values,” Bush says. “I live by them, and I lead by them.”
As Bush speaks in the video, the background music—a Latin beat—grows louder. The president is pictured waving the Mexican flag, hugging a Latino woman, and then holding a Latino baby.
from:
http://www.latimes.com/news/printeditio ... -frontpage
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HB3 wrote: Ok, I made that part up.
HB3, I had to chuckle, anyway!
Oh, yes, I posted something about this -- oops, my thread was about JEB BUSH in FLORIDA.
I did not provide all those wonderful insightful details of that article -- just too busy.
If you wish, you can add your info to my thread, too, that way more Pirates and Readers will see this is far more serious than we realized -- the thrust to create REGIONALISM within the United States, and the BUSH FAMILY are hard-core to the max on this one. They are grooming their "little brown one's", too .....and was evident when Bush was campaigning with them always on stage and nearby for photo-ops, lest the LATINOS of America, lest the MEXICANS of America, may have missed their message, and no need for any overt clicking of boots and seig heils, either.
Obviously, from many generations in MEXICO, millions of docile MEXICANS are made pliable to follow their padre, too.
It's not just TEXAS those AZTLANS are after, because the way JEB BUSH spoke it was likely that FLORIDA was being identified, too, as LATIN! So, it's Cally'forn'ya, TEXAS, NEW MEXICO, parts of ARIZONA, and parts of FLORIDA, around Mi-a-Mi.
If this AZTLAN politiks is being supported by the BUSH FAMILY, we should know that this is a tad sinister, too, given the strange bed-fellows of Foxy Vincente, and narco-alliances in banking systems between MEXICO and the UNITED STATES. We won't say a word about the Narco-politiks involved between OIL COMPANIES and narcotics trades, either.
Ninerism
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HB3 wrote: The noble workers put on the black coat and tails as soon as they're given a chance. The Revolutionary Purge is indeed good for a period of mass slaughter and social discord, though, if that's what you're interested in.
"Let all the poison in the mud hatch out" is by definition impossible: it's bottomless. But your appreciation for Graves expains a lot. Are you an acolyte of the White Goddess?
Dostoevsky made a good point in "The Devils" -- the revolutionary personality doesn't crave justice; it longs for mayhem.
HB3, it's your quote of Dostoevsky that sends chills up my spine: "The REVOLUTIONARY PERSONALITY doesn't crave justice, it longs for mayhem." I was thinking about things I had heard about Zapata, too, and other revolutionaries.
The outcome of the targeting of the Romanov's in Russia, and the announcement of communism following the Russian Revolution mostly resulted in decades of horrible mayhem, too. There was NOT any real redistribution of wealth. The Russian Revolution was partly instigated and supported by those money-makers on WALL STREET, too.
Ninerism
Why, thank you, Niner. The Devils is pretty much the first and last word on the totalitarian mentality -- and incredibly relevant to the world today. He foresaw the end results of the Russian revolution, and history has proven him right. I suppose you could jump ahead a hundred years to Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago for the details in between.
I appreciate the even-handedness in your posts. It's been crazy, hasn't it? Largely horrible.
Two and a half more years of this ****, and no guarantee it'll get better after that.
The character of a country really does take on the character of its leaders.
I appreciate the even-handedness in your posts. It's been crazy, hasn't it? Largely horrible.
Two and a half more years of this ****, and no guarantee it'll get better after that.
The character of a country really does take on the character of its leaders.
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