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Post by Raggedyann » 07-08-2016 01:53 AM

Well, this sure put a damper on protests all over the US.
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Former Congressman Threatens Obama on Twitter After Dallas Shooting

Conservative Congressman turned talk show host Joe Walsh took to Twitter in the aftermath of the tragic shooting in Dallas on Thursday night to deliver a threat to the people he took to be either behind it or who create a climate that allowed for it to happen. One of those people, according to him? The President.

In a now-deleted tweet, Walsh told President Obama to "watch out" because "Real America is coming after you."

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Raggedyann wrote:Well, this sure put a damper on protests all over the US.
I'm fairly confident that this is the least of the concerns. This was a calculated, planned event, and speaks to how increasingly polarized this country has become over the past, what, five decades now (maybe more.....).

This is bad and it's going to get worse.

The idiot who threatened President Obama should be charged with threatening the life of the president (you HAVE TO respect the office, if not agree with the individual and his/ her policies). I felt the same about '43 - couldn't stand the guy personally, but had to respect the office nonetheless. Threatening the life of a president is a crime and this individual should be punished.

As far as the shootings - it was bound to happen, since it's already happened in other cities such as New York where two officers were gunned down in cold blood. I truly feel for these officers families - as well as the families of non police who have been shot by police.

Here in Massachusetts, it seems that we have a new "sport" with cops and staties being run over on highway assisting drivers who's cars have broken down, or, while assigned on detail for road construction (of which there is a LOT lately). We had two cops/ staties hit in the past couple of weeks and you have to wonder if some of this isn't planned.......
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Post by Doka » 07-08-2016 09:29 AM

I wonder what people expected? For people who can't see beyond their own nose, it could be a shock. :shock:
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Raggedyann wrote:Well, this sure put a damper on protests all over the US.
I'm fairly confident that this is the least of the concerns. This was a calculated, planned event, and speaks to how increasingly polarized this country has become over the past, what, five decades now (maybe more.....).

This is bad and it's going to get worse.

The idiot who threatened President Obama should be charged with threatening the life of the president (you HAVE TO respect the office, if not agree with the individual and his/ her policies). I felt the same about '43 - couldn't stand the guy personally, but had to respect the office nonetheless. Threatening the life of a president is a crime and this individual should be punished.

As far as the shootings - it was bound to happen, since it's already happened in other cities such as New York where two officers were gunned down in cold blood. I truly feel for these officers families - as well as the families of non police who have been shot by police.

Here in Massachusetts, it seems that we have a new "sport" with cops and staties being run over on highway assisting drivers who's cars have broken down, or, while assigned on detail for road construction (of which there is a LOT lately). We had two cops/ staties hit in the past couple of weeks and you have to wonder if some of this isn't planned.......
Well said Kbot!

Until cops start facing the reality that there are racist cops amongst them and stop covering up and making ridiculous excuses for their crimes, things will get worse. When people feel persecuted no matter the colour of their skin, they will fight back and innocent people will die as they do in all wars.
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All kidding aside, gun bans don't work. You disarm the people who use them legally, leaving only criminals with guns.

If your logic was correct, Chicago would be the safest place in the world.

The problem is not the gun, it's people. Besides....
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Add to that cars, alcohol, cigarettes, medical malpractice, obesity, and government.

Fix the people, and you fix the problem.
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Post by Doka » 07-08-2016 05:12 PM

But, it is still OK if it is black on black murdering each other, that's at about 30 to 40%. It's OK to assassinate the police as long as the assassinaters are black, heavily armed , and more than likely paid for. It is OK for them to "strong arm" the LGBT people like they did in Toronto. This has nothing to do with making Black Lives Better! This sad circumstance no one seems to want a solution to especially our Federal Government, like Loretta said today, "sorry for the loss", "carry on". Bullies seem to love bullies. It's about creating chaos and fear , and says a lot about people obsessed with the hatred of the color of their own skin. Sick.


Politics on parade: How Black Lives Matter halted a gay pride parade in Toronto

On Sunday, Black Lives Matter activists pulled off the sort of victory that right-wing hooligans could only hope to achieve: They stopped a gay pride parade.

“We are calling you out!” Alexandria Williams, co-founder of the group’s Toronto chapter, shouted through a megaphone as the Black Lives Matter float came to a halt and marchers sat down. Amid rainbow-colored smoke bombs, she accused event organizers of harboring “a historical and current culture of anti-blackness” — a curious claim considering how the festival welcomed Black Lives Matter as “guests of honor.”

Black Lives Matter refused to budge unless pride organizers acquiesced to a list of demands, which included increased funding for black-related pride events, “prioritizing black trans women” in hiring, and “a commitment to more black deaf & hearing ASL interpreters.” Surely, these issues — which are always “demands,” never “requests” — could have been taken up in a constructive manner before the parade. But dialogue has never been the preferred mode of communication for Black Lives Matter, not even, apparently, in uber-polite Canada.

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Post by Raggedyann » 07-08-2016 05:21 PM

The NRA also said good guys with guns can stop mass shootings… Well, all the cops were armed.
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Post by Raggedyann » 07-08-2016 07:27 PM

Quote VOGUY: "All kidding aside, gun bans don't work." and "The problem is not the gun, it's people."

If the problem is the people, then take the assault weapons and other guns that kill in seconds, out of the hands of the people. Doh! If these high powered killing machines were not available to everybody and their dog, good chance those cops would still be alive.

Where is it that gun control laws don't work? They do in all the countries that have gun control laws. The US has never had gun control, as the law turns a blind to whatever laws you have, so how can you say they don't work?

Australia had 13 mass killings in 15 years until they brought in strict gun control in 1995. They haven't had one mass killing since.

Blacks killing Blacks and all the other arguments here are lame distractions and meaningless. White's kill Whites too.

Every single US crisis that hits the media involves military style guns and I'm sorry, but the rest of the world thinks it's completely nuts.

As for the Second Amendment that says something about arming yourselves against Government tyranny, do know that the cops used a robot to kill the shooter in Dallas. If the Gov came stomping down the streets of the USA to get ya all, there would sweet bugger all you could do about it. They have militarised police, the largest military in the world, robots, tanks, weapons that fly and other stuff we probably don't even know about, so it's time to get over the romantic fantasy that you could protect you and your family. Hogwash. Get sensible instead.

I'll bet that most ordinary folks don't have assault weapons, and hundreds of rounds of ammo laying around their house, so where is this big army of civilians going to pop up from to combat the big scary Government? :mrgreen:

They don't need to round you all up to control you, they already control you, albeit using much more sophisticated, practical and fail safe methods. This is 2016, not 1787.
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Post by voguy » 07-09-2016 06:23 AM

Raggedyann wrote:Australia had 13 mass killings in 15 years until they brought in strict gun control in 1995. They haven't had one mass killing since.
Care to quote the murder rate accurately, excluding mass killings? Or is the 5 or 6 mass killings worse that 20 individual killings in your mind?

And as far as the type of gun, how many have been killed by a "military style" gun vs any other type? For that matter, compare killings with military style guns to that of knives and other methods.

Again, the problem in America is not the device which takes lives, it the person. Do some research and you'll see that each mass killer was certifiably insane or was influenced by something (ISIS) in their lives.

It's easy to blame the gun. But what do you say when the gun is gone and the person still kills. "Whoops, it must be something else."
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Post by Raggedyann » 07-09-2016 02:33 PM

You can parse things up all you want. Giving dangerous weapons willy nilly to everybody in the country is just plain stupid.
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Post by Raggedyann » 07-09-2016 04:21 PM

Gun, not race, sparked Philando Castile killing, officer's lawyer says

A suburban Minnesota police officer who killed a black driver reacted to the man's gun, not his race, his attorney said Saturday, giving the most detailed account so far of why the officer drew his own weapon.

St. Anthony Police Officer Jeronimo Yanez was reacting to "the presence of that gun and the display of that gun" when he opened fire on Philando Castile, Minneapolis attorney Thomas Kelly told The Associated Press. He declined to elaborate on how Castile displayed the weapon or what led up to the deadly traffic stop.

Castile's girlfriend Diamond Reynolds was in the car and streamed the immediate aftermath of the shooting live on Facebook. She has said Yanez shot Castile several times after he told the officer he had a gun and a permit for it and then reached for his wallet.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/philando-c ... -1.3671989

Moral of story. Don't carry a weapon in your glove compartment if you have a broken tail light. If you're skin is White, it's OK though as you can be trusted. In fact you won't even have to tell the officer that you have a gun as when he sees it, he will just know you are no threat to him because it's legal for you.
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Post by voguy » 07-09-2016 07:11 PM

Part of the problem, RA, with people getting shot is their need to be "big" by stuffing a weapon in their belt or pants. If you have conceal carry, the 1st thing any instructor will tell you is; place your hands on the dash and say, "I have a gun on me, it's in ....." and then DON'T reach for anything. You can't expect a police officer to watch you grab for something and possibly get the first shot. That said, I think the cop over reacted by the number of shots at close range, and that speaks to the military training many departments give to shoot till neutralized.

The second problem, which is predominant in poor urban areas, is the mindset of the individuals who think the gun will get them out of a problem or situation. That's not the gun thinking illogically, it's the person. And you can ban guns, but the thug on the street will always find a weapon.

As for your last sentence, pure liberal faulty thinking. It's not a black or white issue. It's how you conduct yourself on the stop. You need to get out of BC to the real world someday.
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