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Do We Still ‘Hold These Truths’?

Post by Riddick » 07-03-2023 02:09 PM

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[I paired it down & it's still a bit of a read but it's a good one. This really lays it out.]

Shortly we will once more celebrate the Fourth of July, America’s Independence Day. But what are we really celebrating? Most Americans dimly recollect on this day, sometime in the distant past, Americans declared independence from Great Britain.

But they seldom stop to reflect on the true revolution the holiday signifies: the Declaration of Independence and creation of a nation based on a universal idea. As Alexander Hamilton put it, the United States had the opportunity to establish a government founded on “reflection and choice” rather than on “accident and force.”

The Declaration of Independence claimed to derive its authority from certain “self-evident” truths. Do we still believe in them?

HOW IT BEGAN

The political philosophy of the American republic is found in the Declaration. The architecture for that is in the Constitution. The Declaration maintains nature, including human nature, is accessible to human reason, which can ascertain our natural rights.

To secure these, governments are instituted, deriving just powers from consent of the governed. Our founding generation saw the Constitution as a framework for a type of government based on the equality and consent of a self-governing people.

In what respect are we equal under the Constitution? Only in our natural rights, which the Constitution is intended to protect. A corollary holds all human beings are equal in the sense no one person may govern another without the latter’s consent.

While the Constitution is based on mutual trust among citizens, it embodies deep distrust of those in power. Thus, a successful republic required not only virtuous citizens and broad civic trust but also mechanisms to prevent government abuse. One of its most important abuse control devices is the Constitution's separation of powers.

This was simply prudent. While their hope was enlightened public-minded men would govern, the founders realized it was necessary to have an architecture that would minimize damage in the event less enlightened public minded individuals rose to power.

HOW IT "PROGRESSED"

Clearly this is not the situation that prevails today. Unfortunately, what was created has devolved into rule by a few with interests at odds with the public at large. This ruling oligarchy includes not only unelected bureaucrats but also corporate leaders in tech, finance and media who establish rules from which they themselves are exempt.

Our presumed governors have cast aside the Declaration and abuse the Constitution at will. The result is the political crisis we face today: a lawless executive, a Congress and Court complicit in this lawlessness, leading to an out of control federal government that makes a mockery of the idea of a self-governing people.

This change in view of the relation between the Constitution and the Declaration is the result of the revolution in political thought effected by the Progressives in the latter part of the 19th and early part of the 20th centuries.

While many historians have treated the Progressives as merely a “good government” reform movement, they essentially “re-founded” the republic, changing the basis of America's government from human nature & natural rights to “history” & “progress.”

The Progressives asserted a new concept of man as a being possessing no natural rights, but with potentially limitless material needs that must be provided by an administrative state ruled by “experts.” Thus the Progressives effectively replaced liberty with “efficiency” and the concept of “rights” with prescriptive entitlements.

While Progressivism is complicated & not always internally consistent, its fundamental “big idea” is there is no such thing as the sort of unchanging truth claimed in the Declaration. Instead, all ideas arise from particular historical circumstances.

Not being up to the task of dealing with complexities of 20th century American life the Constitution, said the Progressives, was outdated and incompetent to handle contemporary economic and social ills. If applied at all, they contended, it ought be applied as a “living” document, modified to meet the changes of modern life.

While the founders created a republic based on natural law and natural right, the Progressives believed there could be no abiding non-arbitrary standard of moral or political judgment, independent of human will. As such government must evolve to meet changing needs and guided by similarly evolving standards of right.

Thus as the Progressive political scientist Charles Merriam put it in 1920, it is impossible “that any limit can be set to governmental activity.”

ADMINISTRATIVE PRIMACY

Being a barrier blocking the social and economic policies they advocated, Progressives saw the Constitution’s separation of powers as an effort to enshrine legislative primacy. In the name of good government and efficiency, the Progressives sought to create a new constitutional order, with the president as its driving force.

Accordingly, Woodrow Wilson and the Progressives reconceived the presidency itself, overcoming the obstacle by rising above it: The means to do so was separating politics & administration, permitting the president on matters of policy to breach the mere “parchment” barriers that divided the legislative and executive branches.

In other words, executive power & government would grow in parallel. No more would the president be at best, Congress’ co-equal, or at worst, the legislature’s frustrated servant. This reconceived presidency would also be the main instrument of a de facto new Constitution, one devoid of any foolish limited government preoccupation.

For the Progressives, the president was to embody the will of the people, a proactive government’s innovator-in-chief who understands the direction of historical forces but who unites this with popular desires. Details in both the design & execution of policies would rely on 'expertly skilled' administrators under the president’s direction & control.

The result is an increasingly centralized and bureaucratized administrative state that expands relentlessly while increasing dependence of the citizen-body on government. As Matthew Spalding has written, clients of the state are on the verge of becoming the majority faction James Madison saw as the greatest threat to free government.

Alexis de Tocqueville’s warnings about democratic despotism seem more and more prophetic, as an all-intrusive state reduces the public to “being nothing more than a herd of timid and industrious animals of which the government is the shepherd.”

Let us recur to the truths of the Declaration of Independence as expressed by President Calvin Coolidge in a speech commemorating its 150th anniversary:

"If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance, no progress can be made beyond these propositions.

If anyone wishes to deny their truth or their soundness, the only direction in which he can proceed historically is not forward, but backward toward the time when there was no equality, no rights of the individual, no rule of the people.

Those who wish to proceed in that direction can not lay claim to progress. They are reactionary. Their ideas are not more modern, but more ancient, than those of the Revolutionary fathers."


Today, our choice is between republic and oligarchy. Unless and until we recapture the former, our crisis of constitutionalism and all its attendant woes will continue.

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WILL THE SUPREME COURT DISMANTLE THE ADMINISTRATIVE STATE?

Post by Riddick » 07-04-2023 05:21 AM

The government we live under is not the one described in the Constitution. The ubiquitous and powerful arm of our government, found nowhere in the Constitution, is the Fourth Branch, the plethora of federal agencies, the administrative state.

The administrative state has assumed much of the power that the Constitution assigns to the legislative and executive branches, a development that has progressed now for more than a century without serious challenge.

Do we finally have a Supreme Court willing to take on the unelected Fourth Branch and restore a government that looks more like the one that is outlined in the Constitution? That is a lot to hope for.

But next term, the Court has agreed to hear SEC v. Jarkesy, a case that raises one of the fundamental issues spotlighted by Prof. Philip Hamburger in his seminal book Is Administrative Law Unlawful? – the combination of investigative and judicial powers in federal agencies.

The case gives the Supreme Court an opportunity to continue the process of whittling the administrative state down to size. And, who knows, perhaps one day restoring the government that the Founders thought they were founding.

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Re: Do We Still ‘Hold These Truths’?

Post by Doka » 07-04-2023 12:00 PM

I can only speak for myself. YES,

BUT!

Like every thing else, some updating becomes necessary if not crucial! Our Constitution was written some 247 years ago. And The Democrats have drilling holes in it every since! So here we are. It was written in a time of a New Country, Low population, that could not communicate, In what we would call today, in a timely fashion. The people of the New Country where busy surviving and rather uncomplicated in their goals.Survival and new Freedoms, where more than likely on most of the Common Folks minds. But they had, what we have seem to have lost.....A purpose for Being. There where a few "Snake Oil" salesman around to gather the new Souls and the weak. Now days, we are over run with the Snake Oil people and a lot of empty people, who no longer have purpose, but to Hate and Bitch. HUMANITY, has come to a "Crossroad".

We Do need a New Constitutional rewrite for the "Times" A Federation of World Leaders Like "Startreck" Perhaps, the UN started with a good idea, but corruption, has taken over! Sides have been chosen, That must never be allowed! , who , So we must rewrite very carefully. What ever, Who ever comes up with a new document. May they have the wisdom and forsite our previous Forefathers posessed for the times.
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Where No One Has Gone Before!... ? Oh Wait

Post by Riddick » 07-04-2023 05:17 PM

Doka wrote: 07-04-2023 12:00 PM I can only speak for myself. YES,

BUT!

Like every thing else, some updating becomes necessary if not crucial!
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Now days, we are over run with the Snake Oil people and a lot of empty people, who no longer have purpose, but to Hate and Bitch. HUMANITY, has come to a "Crossroad".

We Do need a New Constitutional rewrite for the "Times" A Federation of World Leaders Like "Startreck" Perhaps, the UN started with a good idea, but corruption, has taken over! Sides have been chosen, That must never be allowed! , who , So we must rewrite very carefully. What ever, Who ever comes up with a new document. May they have the wisdom and forsite our previous Forefathers posessed for the times.
I gotta say that's a mighty bold proposal y'have there Doka!

I can't say I have no reservations though - Yes, times change. That said, it doesn't follow that there are no 'timeless ideas,' or any need for "first principles" - Taking the step to scrap the Constitution is no small matter, especially in these turbulent times!

What concerns me is what happens to our national sovereignty when the task of a newly minted framework for a federation ala Star Trek is entrusted to world leaders - Authored from top down instead of bottom up will the re-writers be careful, or crafty?

I have lots of questions, but any answers are academic. At this point my expectations are low, as thanks to Wokeism access to human reason is shrinking & the number of folks so afflicted is growing across the board every day, with no end in sight -

Where are all the bright, sensible, people of conscience who will step up & lead the way & save the day? George Carlin said we don't have people like that any more. Everyone's at the mall scratching their ass & buying sneakers with lights in them.

As it is, you and I capable of having a civil, rational discussion on the merits of a Constitutional update. I'd prefer far less ass scratching & WAY more thoughtful give & take ahead of & during any such major undertaking - If only we could Make It So, eh?
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Re: Do We Still ‘Hold These Truths’?

Post by Doka » 07-04-2023 07:15 PM

I really have no idea what an updated Constitution would consist of, but Ido know that a one man show has become a dangerous concept. We have a guy that is old, crazy, and somebody's puppet. Also more old fashioned Mafia than any thing else, And we can't seem to get rid of him!

I have another concept I will put out there. Ban politicians! Donald Trump proved a concept of running a country like a big business, and it worked as far as I'm concerned, Politics always seems to end up dirty, because human downfall is Greed and Power. We ARE going into space soon, We will enjoy the riches it can bring so much better with out the Political Hacks constantly stirring the pot. Running a business, we want ALL to win. Keep the population "unstirred" and as content as possible, there will always be Malcontents, but their own failings as human beings should Not be as News worthy as it is. We Also have AI to contend with.,business will make it as friendly as possible, to be profitable.What Politition would you trust to have Anything to do with it?
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